Donington: BTCC & support chat
Discussion
Speed Badger said:
It's better than having four or five donkeys knobbing around that the back, now there's only one.
I think there's two, Halstead & Osborne. Both are driving cars that their teams mates are winning races in, these two have no wins, no podiums and very few points finishes. They've probably got more race finishes on the back of a recovery lorry than points finishes.The number of cars is almost irrelevant to good racing.
BothGT racing or BTCC can't produce some good racing and also some not so good races. Neither are dependent on grid size.
Some if the best racing I ever watched was the Cadwell Park FF1600 series. Usually had about 5 or 6 entries but absolutely brilliant racing.
BothGT racing or BTCC can't produce some good racing and also some not so good races. Neither are dependent on grid size.
Some if the best racing I ever watched was the Cadwell Park FF1600 series. Usually had about 5 or 6 entries but absolutely brilliant racing.
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
Speed Badger said:
It's better than having four or five donkeys knobbing around that the back, now there's only one.
I think there's two, Halstead & Osborne. Both are driving cars that their teams mates are winning races in, these two have no wins, no podiums and very few points finishes. They've probably got more race finishes on the back of a recovery lorry than points finishes.Edited by ninepoint2 on Wednesday 1st May 21:51
FredericRobinson said:
Has the campsite been open this weekend? That won’t have been much fun if it has
Yes and we left early Sunday, luckily our home was made of plastic. The ones under canvas were also waking up to 50mm of water in there tents. I don’t think we will bother camping next year.It’s a shame as Friday evening was nice and the views are very good.
Milkyway said:
Whilst its still fresh on my mind... those live lifts are a bit butt clenching.
I quite agree with Paul O' Neills comments & hope they he didn't get his knuckles rapped by Mr Gow... too hard anyway.
In principle, I'm not against recovering vehicles while cars are circulating. But only when it's appropriate. Having marshals in the firing line while cars were flying through Craner Curves just seemed to dangerous. Even under yellow flags they were too fast for comfort, given the conditions. I know they wanted to get in as much racing as possible, but that was very badly handled. I quite agree with Paul O' Neills comments & hope they he didn't get his knuckles rapped by Mr Gow... too hard anyway.
Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 2nd May 08:20
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
I think there's two, Halstead & Osborne. Both are driving cars that their teams mates are winning races in, these two have no wins, no podiums and very few points finishes. They've probably got more race finishes on the back of a recovery lorry than points finishes.
That's pretty damn unfair, Sam had a bad weekend and I know had issues with his car but he was still competitive in terms of pace when it was on song and has run strong top ten at Donington in the past, even in cars that weren't as strong as the Focus is right now.He also works unbelievably hard for his spot on the team, outside his day job he drives and services the race trucks, keeps the team's tech running and upgraded, works on the cars, builds and maintains the NAPA hospitality for each event, in fact he completely re-engineered their hospo setup over the winter more or less single handed.
He's also one of the nicest people you'd ever meet.
Sam's hard work is a big part of the success of the other cars and he's a quick driver on his day, he more than deserves to be on the grid.
SpudLink said:
Even under yellow flags they were too fast for comfort, given the conditions.
The solution is to throw the book at those who didn't slow down enough. Under a double waved yellow you're supposed to be obeying the following:"Great danger. Slow down considerably. Be prepared to suddenly change from the projected racing line, or take other evasive action including stopping if necessary. No overtaking. "
I rarely see that happening on TV but I've seen it obeyed many times in general club racing. For me you should be at safety car speed at the maximum when live snatch is underway. So what if someone catches up. It's no different to a safety car and is a plastic trophy more important than the risk of inuring a volunteer?
The problem with ‘slow down considerably’ is it’s incredibly vague.
A Radical slowing down by half will still be quicker than a 2cv doing the same. That’s even assuming everyone’s ‘considerably’ is the same, which is unlikely given there’s not a percentage of reduction or a target speed dictated.
A Radical slowing down by half will still be quicker than a 2cv doing the same. That’s even assuming everyone’s ‘considerably’ is the same, which is unlikely given there’s not a percentage of reduction or a target speed dictated.
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
Speed Badger said:
It's better than having four or five donkeys knobbing around that the back, now there's only one.
I think there's two, Halstead & Osborne. Both are driving cars that their teams mates are winning races in, these two have no wins, no podiums and very few points finishes. They've probably got more race finishes on the back of a recovery lorry than points finishes.SpudLink said:
In principle, I'm not against recovering vehicles while cars are circulating. But only when it's appropriate. Having marshals in the firing line while cars were flying through Craner Curves just seemed to dangerous. Even under yellow flags they were too fast for comfort, given the conditions. I know they wanted to get in as much racing as possible, but that was very badly handled.
I was baffled by the marshalling this weekend, I said at the time:zsdom said:
If there is an injured marshall track side surely they should’ve red flagged it rather than pootle around behind the safety car, even if they add 3 laps on we’ll only get a 6 lap race
Baffling decison
It seemed that the TV schedule was more important than track side safety and they wanted as much TV time to be recovered instead of doing things properlyBaffling decison
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