What to follow a GT4 with?
Discussion
Steve Rance said:
996RS
996 1/2 CS
996 1/2
997 1 RS
997 2 RS
997 1/2 CS
997 1/2
991/2 and 992 would probably start with the 2RS but this car has a genuine reliance on aero as a factor for the extraction of performance which arguably reduces tactility and involvement.
If the OP places outright pace over Driver engagement, tactility and involvement the list would effectively reverse. All GT3’s are incredibly capable cars, It really depends on where you place your priorities
This for me, once you’ve experienced a GT3 in anger you’ll know if it’s for you-you just need to figure out which flavour.996 1/2 CS
996 1/2
997 1 RS
997 2 RS
997 1/2 CS
997 1/2
991/2 and 992 would probably start with the 2RS but this car has a genuine reliance on aero as a factor for the extraction of performance which arguably reduces tactility and involvement.
If the OP places outright pace over Driver engagement, tactility and involvement the list would effectively reverse. All GT3’s are incredibly capable cars, It really depends on where you place your priorities
Edited by Steve Rance on Thursday 16th May 09:16
I adored the 997 RS, done lots of laps and very nearly bought one when my time came. I like the phrase above of it being an old school 911 whilst still feeling modern.
In the end though it was a 996 I really wanted so got one of those
Now then, one thing I must point out is just how difficult they are to drive fast. I returned to the ring after five years away and although learning the car and deliberately doing slow laps I was surprised at just how slow I was!
But that’s the idea, I bought something to learn and improve at.
A GT4 and modern GT3 will be massively quicker in an average drivers hands-massively!
The new RS’ have even moved the game on even further-those boys are bloody quick! For some people, that’s reason enough all by itself and fair enough. No one wants to be the slowest guy on track.
It’s all horses for courses, they’re all so different through the generations there’s one that will particularly speak out to you and that’s what you should buy and enjoy.
Steve Rance said:
If dynamics and the driving reward/experience were not a priority to the OP, I’d definitely stay with a mid engined platform. There are a lot of well engineered cars available in this sector. In this sector I’d chose a GT4RS
That seems a bit unkind to mid engine cars I think as I can't really agree they don't offer driving reward/experience. they do, at least imo but merely a different one to a rear engine car. Whether that then is better is a subjective thing for everyone.isaldiri said:
Steve Rance said:
If dynamics and the driving reward/experience were not a priority to the OP, I’d definitely stay with a mid engined platform. There are a lot of well engineered cars available in this sector. In this sector I’d chose a GT4RS
That seems a bit unkind to mid engine cars I think as I can't really agree they don't offer driving reward/experience. they do, at least imo but merely a different one to a rear engine car. Whether that then is better is a subjective thing for everyone.isaldiri said:
Steve Rance said:
If dynamics and the driving reward/experience were not a priority to the OP, I’d definitely stay with a mid engined platform. There are a lot of well engineered cars available in this sector. In this sector I’d chose a GT4RS
That seems a bit unkind to mid engine cars I think as I can't really agree they don't offer driving reward/experience. they do, at least imo but merely a different one to a rear engine car. Whether that then is better is a subjective thing for everyone.ntiz said:
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this.
I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
Drive as many cars as you can. I was in a similar position in exiting a GT4 pdk earlier this year but found the 911 options underwhelming after driving various other brands. After being besotted with various 488’s, I ended up going with a Artura. Not something I anticipated, but after a test drive it was an easy choice.I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
993rsr said:
Ha ha! There are mid engined cars and there are CGT’s. If the OP had one of those in his list it would be game over. I like any car that tries its best to kill you some of the time but I really love the CGT because it tries to kill you ALL of the time. Slightly more forgiving now that tyre technology is catching up with the chassis capability. ntiz said:
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this.
I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
What a great position to be in. Your budget gives you almost full band width for your shortlist.I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
If you have the smallest inclination on investing then 997.2RS should be added to your menu.
IMO the right example will steadily increase in value even against a little annual use !!
If residuals turn you off then no brainer………
991.2 RS , PccB’s, lift, 918’s and leather dash
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