Talk me out of an E38 735i V8
Talk me out of an E38 735i V8
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drfrank

Original Poster:

785 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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I'm thinking of buying an E38 735i V8, there seems to be some really nice examples around, well maintained and fully serviced for sub 4k.
I know very little about the car other than I like the looks and the V8. I was contemplating a post 2000 XJR but nice examples are so rare that I think the BMW is the way to go.
Anything to look out for with them ?
(The V12 is very tempting but I figure a potential money pit)

S3_Graham

12,835 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Buy the 740! Same fuel economy and more go!

gbradders123

3 posts

162 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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the early 728i with the single vanos can be made to out the same power as the 735i for a couple hundred, not quite the torque though. The 740i is the better option over the 735i, but if the 735i is absurdly cheap there not a bad motor.

bigdom

2,339 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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S3_Graham said:
Buy the 740! Same fuel economy and more go!
Very true.

Check out http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e38/ or http://the7seriesregister.co.uk/e38.htm

I've had mine(740i)for around a year, averages 22mpg on mixed driving, circa 30mpg at 80. If your contemplating a 750i, you'll find a 728i underpowered.

eliot

11,992 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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bigdom said:
I've had mine(740i)for around a year, averages 22mpg on mixed driving, circa 30mpg at 80. .
My E39 M62 540 never got close to that unless coasting behind a lorry.

g3org3y

22,250 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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S3_Graham said:
Buy the 740! Same fuel economy and more go!
This. I wouldn't spend 4k on a 735i tbh.

drfrank

Original Poster:

785 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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not many 740s about
Loads of 728s and 735s but only high miler 740s

Esseesse

9,027 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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I know it's not in the PH spirit but I've always thought it's a shame there's no e38 730d.

For me these cars are for going a long way in comfort and I can't afford to fuel a V8 for that.

cableguy

2,287 posts

235 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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There was an e38 740d, however only available in LHD (Europe). Superb engine from what i've read. wink

C.

S3_Graham

12,835 posts

225 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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drfrank said:
not many 740s about
Loads of 728s and 735s but only high miler 740s
Its worth hunting out a good 740 sport, will hold money better than any other 7 IMO. £4k should buy you a lovely example, they can be had for £2000 upwards.

Esseesse

9,027 posts

234 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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cableguy said:
There was an e38 740d, however only available in LHD (Europe). Superb engine from what i've read. wink

C.
I found these 730d's and 740d's in Germany a little while after posting. I assume the 730d economy will be slightly less than an e39 530d, any idea what the 740d manages? Tempting to import one and just deal with it being LHD.

drfrank

Original Poster:

785 posts

228 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I've had my head turned....
A friend asked if I had considered a Lexus (GS300), which I hadn't. Looking around though there are bargains to be had with (?) less to go wrong (?), (?) increased reliability etc
I realise that they are rather sterile but in terms of waftability & comfort are they a more sensible option ?

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

267 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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g3org3y said:
S3_Graham said:
Buy the 740! Same fuel economy and more go!
This. I wouldn't spend 4k on a 735i tbh.
I wouldn't spend £4k on an E38 full stop.

I've had a 728 and 740 and paid less than £1500 for each one - that's when they were 9 and 12 years old respectively and far from bog standard.

735s are the middle child although you can find some very well specced examples out there. A late 740 sport can be had with decent miles for around £2.5k so spend some time looking around.

Stu R

21,523 posts

241 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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drfrank said:
I've had my head turned....
A friend asked if I had considered a Lexus (GS300), which I hadn't. Looking around though there are bargains to be had with (?) less to go wrong (?), (?) increased reliability etc
I realise that they are rather sterile but in terms of waftability & comfort are they a more sensible option ?
Cheap waftability, I'd look at the LS rather than the GS, but both are decent.

Still prefer the E38, but I'd wager Lexus would be less bothersome. My E38 was very reliable, until it wasn't. Then it was a money pit.

E38Ross

36,723 posts

238 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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4k on an E38 is way too much unless it's absolutely spot on, and the 735i isn't the one to get. Want economy get a 728i, want power get the 740i or..... 750i but the 735i sits somewhere in between and generally commands less of a premium.

DSLiverpool

16,305 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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drfrank said:
I've had my head turned....
A friend asked if I had considered a Lexus (GS300), which I hadn't. Looking around though there are bargains to be had with (?) less to go wrong (?), (?) increased reliability etc
I realise that they are rather sterile but in terms of waftability & comfort are they a more sensible option ?
Im a Lexus fan had GS430 and GS450 as a TOOL to commute or do motorways in they are sublime, as your car for the weekend hoon they are bloody awful. Boring and unexciting as a pleasure car, unmatched as a business tool.

drfrank

Original Poster:

785 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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@dsliverpool
Motorway/A-road muncher is what I am after. In addition I want.....
Leather
Comfort
Smoothness
Comfort
Comfort
Oh and room for golf clubs +/- kids if I need to ferry them anywhere

gf15

1,036 posts

292 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Probably not the best person to talk to if you want to be deterred from an E38
I had a 1998 735i sport for a couple of years, it was 6 years old when I got it. Put 40k trouble free miles on it. Only issue was a front spring £200 fitted. I found the 4 pot brakes so much nicer than the 2 pot ones on the 740 and I found the performance difference negligible. It had a mega spec. M parallels, Buffalo leather, electric blinds etc.

After the 735, I bought a 1999 740 (non sport) and ran it for 6 years from 70k miles to 200k miles. Issues were; 1 x water pump £400, 3 springs @ £200 fitted over the years, one fuel tank due to too much vacuum in the tank £350 as it was under warranty, full price was £850.
I used mine for the 240 mile trip to work and back. Steady 80 to 85 was 30 Mpg in both.
I would buy on condition with Buffalo leather and M parallel's as the nicest options. Please also consider things like condition of the discs / pads and tyres, as it is easy to spend £1k on these bits.
The final point to remember is that after a nice E38, everything else will seem built to a price / cheap.
I loved both of mine until the day I sold them! I would gladly own one again.

DSLiverpool

16,305 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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drfrank said:
@dsliverpool
Motorway/A-road muncher is what I am after. In addition I want.....
Leather
Comfort
Smoothness
Comfort
Comfort
Oh and room for golf clubs +/- kids if I need to ferry them anywhere
You want a gs450 with radar cruise

Esseesse

9,027 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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gf15 said:
Probably not the best person to talk to if you want to be deterred from an E38
I had a 1998 735i sport for a couple of years, it was 6 years old when I got it. Put 40k trouble free miles on it. Only issue was a front spring £200 fitted. I found the 4 pot brakes so much nicer than the 2 pot ones on the 740 and I found the performance difference negligible. It had a mega spec. M parallels, Buffalo leather, electric blinds etc.

After the 735, I bought a 1999 740 (non sport) and ran it for 6 years from 70k miles to 200k miles. Issues were; 1 x water pump £400, 3 springs @ £200 fitted over the years, one fuel tank due to too much vacuum in the tank £350 as it was under warranty, full price was £850.
I used mine for the 240 mile trip to work and back. Steady 80 to 85 was 30 Mpg in both.
I would buy on condition with Buffalo leather and M parallel's as the nicest options. Please also consider things like condition of the discs / pads and tyres, as it is easy to spend £1k on these bits.
The final point to remember is that after a nice E38, everything else will seem built to a price / cheap.
I loved both of mine until the day I sold them! I would gladly own one again.
Cool, and nice garage/car port.

Ahhh if only there were room for multiple cars. Love the E38's but my E39 is also awesome.