How likely being nicked and what specifically for?
Discussion
Cat said:
John145 said:
Ring round garages to see who has trade plates and ask them to collect the car.
Trade plates allow an untaxed car to be used on a public road, no more, no less. How would they help in this case? Cat
Well - What a difference!
I rang my local constabulllll...and they got their RT dept to ring back...
A very nice man PC (or PS) not sure... explained to me that the VE Act 1994 under section 42, 42.4-42.6 provides a defence to drive an unregistered vehicle directly to and from pre-booked appointments ... for the purposes of registration.. or words to that effect...
...and he confirmed that driving to a pre-booked appt (thats what he said) would be covered under that section!
..and here it is!
42 Not fixing registration mark.
(1)If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3)In subsection (1) “the relevant person” means the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(4)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that—
(a)he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act, and
(b)the vehicle was being driven for the purpose of being so registered.
(5)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) in relation to a vehicle—
(a)to which section 47 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of subsection (2)(b) of that section, or
(b)to which [F1Article 63 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995] applies by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) of that Article,(vehicles manufactured before the prescribed period and used before registration) to prove that he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act and that the vehicle was being driven in accordance with subsection (6).
(6)A vehicle is being driven in accordance with this subsection if—
(a)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under section 45 of the M2Road Traffic Act 1988 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from subsection (1) of section 47 of that Act by regulations under subsection (6) of that section, or
[F2(b)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under Article 61 of the M3Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from paragraph (1) of Article 63 of that Order by regulations under paragraph (6) of that Article.]
Perhaps what I should have asked was if that covered any repair or just an MOT?
My mate will be chuffed... and I have the BIB name and number if things get sticky!
I rang my local constabulllll...and they got their RT dept to ring back...
A very nice man PC (or PS) not sure... explained to me that the VE Act 1994 under section 42, 42.4-42.6 provides a defence to drive an unregistered vehicle directly to and from pre-booked appointments ... for the purposes of registration.. or words to that effect...
...and he confirmed that driving to a pre-booked appt (thats what he said) would be covered under that section!
..and here it is!
42 Not fixing registration mark.
(1)If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3)In subsection (1) “the relevant person” means the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(4)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that—
(a)he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act, and
(b)the vehicle was being driven for the purpose of being so registered.
(5)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) in relation to a vehicle—
(a)to which section 47 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of subsection (2)(b) of that section, or
(b)to which [F1Article 63 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995] applies by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) of that Article,(vehicles manufactured before the prescribed period and used before registration) to prove that he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act and that the vehicle was being driven in accordance with subsection (6).
(6)A vehicle is being driven in accordance with this subsection if—
(a)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under section 45 of the M2Road Traffic Act 1988 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from subsection (1) of section 47 of that Act by regulations under subsection (6) of that section, or
[F2(b)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under Article 61 of the M3Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from paragraph (1) of Article 63 of that Order by regulations under paragraph (6) of that Article.]
Perhaps what I should have asked was if that covered any repair or just an MOT?
My mate will be chuffed... and I have the BIB name and number if things get sticky!
GC8 said:
Youve failed to add clarity. No one says anything about MOTing <3yr old imported cars.
3Dee said:
Strictly speaking Roo, you no longer actually need an MOT any more.. for an unregistered new car all you need is IVA!
At IVA (unlike SVA), it is all rolled up into one these days.
At IVA (unlike SVA), it is all rolled up into one these days.
Roo said:
My comment was merely in reply to Snowboy questioning whether you could drive a car that has not been through an IVA test to an MOT.
Cat said:
John145 said:
Ring round garages to see who has trade plates and ask them to collect the car.
Trade plates allow an untaxed car to be used on a public road, no more, no less. How would they help in this case? Cat
John145 said:
Please only comment if you know the whole facts, if you are unsure make a comment so the OP's aware.
What is unclear? Trade plates are issued to motor traders/manufacturers in order that they don't have to tax individual vehicles to use them, for certain specific activities, on public roads. Cat
edited for punctuation
Edited by Cat on Tuesday 21st May 19:19
GC8 said:
Trade plates are used as much for unregistered vehciles as they are for registered but untaxed vehicles. Stop repeating the same rubbish man.
I have had trade plates issued by my local VRO for only that purpose.
Sorry but it is not rubbish, trade plates are simply tax disks that can be moved from vehicle to vehicle. This is why they feature in Part I (Vehicle Excise Duty and licenses) and not Part II (Registration of vehicles) of VERA 1994.I have had trade plates issued by my local VRO for only that purpose.
VERA even refers to trade plates as trade licenses as that is what they are, a vehicle excise license that can be moved between vehicles.
Unregistered vehicles can be used on the road in certain circumstances as permitted by s.42 VERA 1994 (as has already been pointed out by another poster). Trade the plates or lack thereof have no bearing on this.
No need to apologise.
Cat
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