Done my good deed for the day!
Done my good deed for the day!
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RWD cossie wil

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4,382 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Travelling down the M40 today, there was a scamra van on a bridge perfectly positioned along a nice wide open stretch of clear motorway.... Luckily I spotted it early & wasn't speeding anyway, but on the return journey I thought I would help a few people out..

Approaching the bridge, I sat in the outside lane doing 70mph, and sure enough I had a queue of traffic behind me, with a guy in a golf flashing me to move over. As we got closer, he spotted the van & slowed down, and gave me the thumbs up once we were clear & back up to normal speeds for the M40 wink

Hopefully saved a few drivers from being robbed of £60 & 3 bonus points biggrin . Utter wkers, no reason for a scamera van there apart from revenue collection.

Flame suit on, off you go holier than thou crowd bow

astirling

419 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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RWD cossie wil said:
once we were clear & back up to normal speeds for the M40 wink
RWD cossie wil said:
Utter wkers, no reason for a scanners van there
Have you not just explained exactly why they feel the need for a camera van there?

(edited to sort my formatting)

Greg_D

6,542 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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astirling said:
RWD cossie wil said:
once we were clear & back up to normal speeds for the M40 wink
RWD cossie wil said:
Utter wkers, no reason for a scanners van there
Have you not just explained exactly why they feel the need for a camera van there?

(edited to sort my formatting)
that's some mighty fine editing there, he said no need apart from revenue collection

The M40 is perfectly safe at it's self policing average of about 90 (backed up by the distinct lack of accident stats)

the 70 mph limit doesn't reflect the abilities of modern cars and is utterly arbitrary

astirling

419 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Greg_D said:
that's some mighty fine editing there, he said no need apart from revenue collection

The M40 is perfectly safe at it's self policing average of about 90 (backed up by the distinct lack of accident stats)

the 70 mph limit doesn't reflect the abilities of modern cars and is utterly arbitrary
The revenue collection comment was irrelevant to my point.

I agree that the 70mph limit is arbitrary, but I don't see how you can call the camera van folk 'utter wkers' in these circumstances. Their purpose is to enforce the speed limit. You and the OP openly accept that the speed limit is routinely broken on this stretch of the M40. It make sense, therefore, that the camera van is situated there. It does not make them 'utter wkers'. The issue is the speed limit being arguably out of date, not the camera van doing its job.

Si_man306

522 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Think of the children!

ArsE92

21,313 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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So you sat in the outside lane purposefully holding up traffic?

Oh dear.

Dusty964

7,248 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Greg_D said:
astirling said:
RWD cossie wil said:
once we were clear & back up to normal speeds for the M40 wink
RWD cossie wil said:
Utter wkers, no reason for a scanners van there
Have you not just explained exactly why they feel the need for a camera van there?

(edited to sort my formatting)
that's some mighty fine editing there, he said no need apart from revenue collection

The M40 is perfectly safe at it's self policing average of about 90 (backed up by the distinct lack of accident stats)

the 70 mph limit doesn't reflect the abilities of modern cars and is utterly arbitrary
Is not 'perfectly' safe though. The limit remains at 70, not 70 plus a bit because you deem it safe enough.

kayzee

3,337 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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It's not really holding people up when that's the speed limit anyway though is it... regardless, I would have rather been held up than have points on my license for going 78mph!

RWD cossie wil

Original Poster:

4,382 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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ArsE92 said:
So you sat in the outside lane purposefully holding up traffic?

Oh dear.
Yep, and saved at least one person at least 3 points & a £60 fine biggrin

ArsE92

21,313 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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kayzee said:
It's not really holding people up when that's the speed limit anyway though is it... regardless, I would have rather been held up than have points on my license for going 78mph!
It's not up to other drivers to dictate the speed that traffic flows at.

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

173 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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TrueLAD

eltax91

10,723 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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kayzee said:
It's not really holding people up when that's the speed limit anyway though is it... regardless, I would have rather been held up than have points on my license for going 78mph!
This. I travel the length of the M40 quite often, there is an unofficial limit of 90 mph in place most of the time. A scammera van is there for the purpose of catching all the normal people who are there doing the same thing they do EVERY day, WITHOUT causing massive accidents.

g3org3y

22,262 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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astirling said:
The revenue collection comment was irrelevant to my point.

I agree that the 70mph limit is arbitrary, but I don't see how you can call the camera van folk 'utter wkers' in these circumstances. Their purpose is to enforce the speed limit. You and the OP openly accept that the speed limit is routinely broken on this stretch of the M40. It make sense, therefore, that the camera van is situated there. It does not make them 'utter wkers'. The issue is the speed limit being arguably out of date, not the camera van doing its job.
I'd rather they enforced the limit somewhere where it actually matters rather than punishing people for 78mph. Revenue collection at its most obvious imo.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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astirling said:
Greg_D said:
that's some mighty fine editing there, he said no need apart from revenue collection

The M40 is perfectly safe at it's self policing average of about 90 (backed up by the distinct lack of accident stats)

the 70 mph limit doesn't reflect the abilities of modern cars and is utterly arbitrary
The revenue collection comment was irrelevant to my point.

I agree that the 70mph limit is arbitrary, but I don't see how you can call the camera van folk 'utter wkers' in these circumstances. Their purpose is to enforce the speed limit. You and the OP openly accept that the speed limit is routinely broken on this stretch the M40. It make sense, therefore, that the camera van is situated there. It does not make them 'utter wkers'. The issue is the speed limit being arguably out of date, not the camera van doing its job.
i didn't call them any names, but come on, would you honestly like to have a pint with a camera van operator??? can you just imagine what they are like, pfff

you'd have to have a pretty skewed moral compass to be comfortable pulling the trigger on a load of cars doing 83 down the m40, knowing that you were personally inflicting a small amount of pain on each of those people. you aren't saving lives, you are being a dick.....

911p

2,361 posts

206 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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ArsE92 said:
It's not up to other drivers to dictate the speed that traffic flows at.
So you'd rather get 3 points and a fine (not to mention a rise in insurance costs) so you could go 15mph quicker for a few hundred metres, than get held up by someone for a minute or so in this case?

Makes sense.

g3org3y

22,262 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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eltax91 said:
kayzee said:
It's not really holding people up when that's the speed limit anyway though is it... regardless, I would have rather been held up than have points on my license for going 78mph!
This. I travel the length of the M40 quite often, there is an unofficial limit of 90 mph in place most of the time. A scammera van is there for the purpose of catching all the normal people who are there doing the same thing they do EVERY day, WITHOUT causing massive accidents.
I was driving back on the M25 last Friday. Sitting at a speedo indicated 85, keeping up with the flow of traffic. A marked Volvo estate police car comes past in Lane 4 (no blues on), must have been doing at 90-95.

He continued past, we continued at 85. No emergency braking, no piss taking with regards to the speed, decent lane discipline. Life continued as normal and we all got to where we needed to go without killing any bunnies whatsoever.

TITWONK

530 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Greg_D said:
i didn't call them any names, but come on, would you honestly like to have a pint with a camera van operator??? can you just imagine what they are like, pfff

you'd have to have a pretty skewed moral compass to be comfortable pulling the trigger on a load of cars doing 83 down the m40, knowing that you were personally inflicting a small amount of pain on each of those people. you aren't saving lives, you are being a dick.....
Lol biggrin

topless_mx5

2,763 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Where on the M40 just out of interest?

FussyFez

972 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Last year on new years day, during the crazy, go and see everyone in different towns malarky, that I go through every new years/Xmas. Me n the Mrs stopped for fuel between two visits, there was an elderly couple with a flat tyre. They had all the stuff out the boot and the spare and jack out, but were stood talking looking at a phone. I approached and asked if I could help. They were about to phone the AA. I chuckled, and said I could have them on their way in 10 minutes. They accepted and I proceeded to whip off the flat and had the spare on and everything in the boot before he got back with a bottle of coke and a twix to say thankyou.

Made me feel quite warm inside.

astirling

419 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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g3org3y said:
I'd rather they enforced the limit somewhere where it actually matters rather than punishing people for 78mph. Revenue collection at its most obvious imo.
You want to apply that logic to the rest of the law? Who judges where the law 'actually matters'?