Am I an international child abductor??

Am I an international child abductor??

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NormalWisdom

2,140 posts

161 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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One other avenue might be your local MP.

I presume you are OK with regards childcare etc?

Petrus1983

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

164 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Thanks for the input.

Brussels 2 sounds intriguing but too vague for google - if you were able to fine tune it a little I’d be really appreciative.

The flying to another country is an interesting idea - they’re v close to Mexico.

My local MP is rubbish unfortunately.

Fab32

380 posts

135 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Try this

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/0-530-6...

and here

http://www.alternativefamilylaw.co.uk/internationa...

The second link suggests to me that the allegation of child abduction has some merit, you need specialist legal advice and ignore any suggestions to escalate things from people on here.

Foliage

3,861 posts

124 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Id just keep repeating to her to send you his passport and you will arrange for his return. what else can you do?

How the hell can it be abduction its just an admin problem, its not like your making any effort to hide his location or stop his return.

Petrus1983

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

164 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Fab32 said:
Try this

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/0-530-6...

and here

http://www.alternativefamilylaw.co.uk/internationa...

The second link suggests to me that the allegation of child abduction has some merit, you need specialist legal advice and ignore any suggestions to escalate things from people on here.
Thank you smile

Chromegrill

1,092 posts

88 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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If he's dual nationality and has a valid UK passport why can't he simply fly back on that? He'd presumably need one of those e-visa things but surely once he's in the US, as he's already a USA citizen he can't be deported can he?

Just make sure he knows the misses mustn't be able to get her hands on the GB passport.

vaud

50,961 posts

157 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Chromegrill said:
If he's dual nationality and has a valid UK passport why can't he simply fly back on that? He'd presumably need one of those e-visa things but surely once he's in the US, as he's already a USA citizen he can't be deported can he?

Just make sure he knows the misses mustn't be able to get her hands on the GB passport.
He's 5...

Peter911

488 posts

159 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Petrus1983 said:
Thanks for the input.

Brussels 2 sounds intriguing but too vague for google - if you were able to fine tune it a little I’d be really appreciative.

The flying to another country is an interesting idea - they’re v close to Mexico.

My local MP is rubbish unfortunately.
I wouldn't do that. They've built a wall.

Seriously though, how can parents use their children as ammunition. Disgraceful.

Red Devil

13,100 posts

210 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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OP, are you in a position to make the US judge who ordered her to 'sort herself out' aware of her current shenanigans?

frisbee

5,015 posts

112 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Chromegrill said:
If he's dual nationality and has a valid UK passport why can't he simply fly back on that? He'd presumably need one of those e-visa things but surely once he's in the US, as he's already a USA citizen he can't be deported can he?

Just make sure he knows the misses mustn't be able to get her hands on the GB passport.
Some countries require you to enter on the passport of that country if you are a citizen.

Oilchange

8,533 posts

262 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Looks like you, his Father, have custody of him, your son.
Until such a situation arises where a judge orders you to get him back and he has a valid US passport. Which, I would say, has to be provided by his mother.
Just guessing here though.

Type R Tom

3,930 posts

151 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Nothing to add but you're lucky you can afford all this messing around, flights, solicitors etc. I could foresee someone in your situation having to just give up or end up in a messy financial situation. Very sad.

Petrus1983

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8,979 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Morning everyone.

Overnight there were developments. In the states an attorney has petitioned a court to order my ex to speed up the passport process and collect her son - basically showing he can’t have been abducted. I’m on a train to the US embassy to arrange an emergency passport to facilitate that (at my expense, obviously!).

In reply to a question above - he can’t travel to the States on a British passport without a visa or an ESTA. He’s not applicable for an ESTA as he intends to stay in the States, and a visa process would take longer than the passport process.

Oakey

27,620 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Oh for simpler times when you were just wanting to ship over half a million quid's worth of clothing eh biggrin

Petrus1983

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Oakey said:
Oh for simpler times when you were just wanting to ship over half a million quid's worth of clothing eh biggrin
Great memory - and yes, I miss those simple days laugh

Petrus1983

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Ok - now have a passport but she’s refusing to pick him up nor help with new flights costs. Getting the new ‘emergency’ passport has cost in the region of £500. Bewildering.

Lonely

1,099 posts

170 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Petrus1983 said:
Ok - now have a passport but she’s refusing to pick him up nor help with new flights costs. Getting the new ‘emergency’ passport has cost in the region of £500. Bewildering.
This is going to get very messy, very quickly.

You clearly care for your son and wouldn't dream of abandoning him. You need to get expert legal advice asap and unfortunately as others have said it will be expensive but it needs doing correctly.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

120 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Petrus1983 said:
Morning everyone.

Overnight there were developments. In the states an attorney has petitioned a court to order my ex to speed up the passport process and collect her son - basically showing he can’t have been abducted. I’m on a train to the US embassy to arrange an emergency passport to facilitate that (at my expense, obviously!).

In reply to a question above - he can’t travel to the States on a British passport without a visa or an ESTA. He’s not applicable for an ESTA as he intends to stay in the States, and a visa process would take longer than the passport process.
You say you have let costs go etc.
You need to stop doing this. She needs to pay her shares etc.
Sounds like she is a proper SWT.

elanfan

5,526 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Surely this is great evidence for a hearing here for full residential custody? Doesn’t she have a somewhat colourful lifestyle that is not conducive to his well being?

Petrus1983

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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I think I’m going to try and find an international lawyer in the morning and see if they’re prepared to review the case for me so atleast I know where I stand.

It’s a total mess and I think they’re purposely trying to financially fk me as so many things now don’t make sense.

Of course - they haven’t considered my son at all in all of their games furious