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Problem is no one in so called authority has any interest in chasing it up, thus the suggestion of changing her name.
I had what I suspect a fraud on a V5 with a log book loan, once the DVLA Were satisfied their was no liability on their behalf they stepped down despite giving my details to debt collectors.
I had what I suspect a fraud on a V5 with a log book loan, once the DVLA Were satisfied their was no liability on their behalf they stepped down despite giving my details to debt collectors.
Seventh level of hell for anyone who is a victim of this, compounded by having to physically visit each court that issued the points, whilst banned.
And give that DVLA operative a medal for suggesting that the only solution was for the victim to change her name. I'm still stunned that they don't even bother to write to the nominee at their DVLA registered address to confirm the points - the first they hear of it is when DVLA want them to return their licence following a ban.
At least good to hear that Manchester Police are doing something about it and I hope that others are finally putting something in place.
What a nightmare.
And give that DVLA operative a medal for suggesting that the only solution was for the victim to change her name. I'm still stunned that they don't even bother to write to the nominee at their DVLA registered address to confirm the points - the first they hear of it is when DVLA want them to return their licence following a ban.
At least good to hear that Manchester Police are doing something about it and I hope that others are finally putting something in place.
What a nightmare.
FiF said:
Still unsure how they get hold of a name with the associated licence number. Maybe contacts in various businesses which get access to that info, eg car hire, garages for courtesy cars, who else? Isn't that worth following up under conspiracy?
Apparently the theory for that is victims have had their licence stolen or lost it.The driver number doesn't change on re-issue.
V8forweekends said:
Also, my driver "number" is actually made up of part of my last name, a jumble of my date of birth and two letters and a number that aren't immediately obvious - perhaps the crims have worked out how those 3 are derived as the others are obvious.
AIUI the last two are random, the one before is usually 9, but not if another driver shares the same prior string Each driving licence holder in England, Scotland and Wales has a 16 character long, unique driver number. The characters are formulated in the following way:
CHARACTERS 1-5: These are the first five characters of the driver’s surname and if it’s less than five, it’s filled up with nines
CHARACTER 6: The decade digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 9
CHARACTERS 7-8: These are the month of birth, so December would be 12. For female drivers, the seventh character is incremented by a 5 – so 51-62 instead of 01-12
CHARACTERS 9-10: The date within the month of birth – this would be 01-31
CHARACTER 11: The year digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 3
CHARACTERS 12-13: The first two initials of the first names – if driver has no middle name, the character is replaced with a 9
CHARACTER 14: Random digit, typically 9
CHARACTERS 15-16: Two computer check digits
CHARACTERS 17-18: Appended, two digits representing the licence issue – increase by one for each licence issued.
CHARACTERS 1-5: These are the first five characters of the driver’s surname and if it’s less than five, it’s filled up with nines
CHARACTER 6: The decade digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 9
CHARACTERS 7-8: These are the month of birth, so December would be 12. For female drivers, the seventh character is incremented by a 5 – so 51-62 instead of 01-12
CHARACTERS 9-10: The date within the month of birth – this would be 01-31
CHARACTER 11: The year digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 3
CHARACTERS 12-13: The first two initials of the first names – if driver has no middle name, the character is replaced with a 9
CHARACTER 14: Random digit, typically 9
CHARACTERS 15-16: Two computer check digits
CHARACTERS 17-18: Appended, two digits representing the licence issue – increase by one for each licence issued.
The check digits are the unknown element. They are created from an algorithm based on the other digits, the details of which are known only to the DVLA. There have been a few FOI requests and details of it have been refused. Given enough driving licence numbers it might (would?) be possible for a smart person to figure out the algorithm, but I imagine it's more likely that the scammers have a source of data, probably from a car hire company or similar.
Gareth79 said:
The check digits are the unknown element. They are created from an algorithm based on the other digits, the details of which are known only to the DVLA. There have been a few FOI requests and details of it have been refused. Given enough driving licence numbers it might (would?) be possible for a smart person to figure out the algorithm, but I imagine it's more likely that the scammers have a source of data, probably from a car hire company or similar.
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