Loco sheds and other railway buildings...

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P5BNij

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mcdjl said:
P5BNij said:
Great story, love it! Sadly I’ve never worked over the East Lancs but have travelled on it a few times. Stories like that were the folk lore of many a mess room in BR days. One of our now retired drivers wrote a really good book called ‘Life On The Leicester Line’ about his time as a secondman based at Coalville, there are some good funny tales in that. Back in 1980 my great uncle wrote one, ‘Country Station Life’ about his time with the LNWR and LMS at Rugby and the various lines radiating from it to Market Harborough, Leicester and Leamington Spa.

I’m on an unusual job tomorrow, working a special ‘jumbo’ test train out of Wembley Yard with a 70, a 66 and two sets of wagons, it’ll be my first time driving a 70 on my own..... smile
Where are you taking it to? If north of Loughborough i might go train spotting for some exercise.
I relieve my mate on it at Battersea in the morning then take that portion up to Wembley where loads of faffing about will ensue to join it up with another portion which comes from Paddington New Yard. Once it’s all nailed together I then take it up the WCML to Bletchley and across the branch to Bedford where I get relief. All in, it’ll be about 4,000 tons when both portions are joined together.

P5BNij

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Flying Phil said:
Another engine shed that I visited in 1965 was in Cardiff


Some sheds were quite small!

A USA tank engine in Okehampton July 1966.
Good old D1662 'IKB', it became 47 484 in 1973 and was one of our pet locos at Old Oak for a while, along with several others from the original batch of WR namers like Odin, Thor, George Jackson Churchward etc....









('IKB' has been in private ownership for several years and is awaiting a complete restoration)

P5BNij

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Wednesday 17th March 2021
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mcdjl said:
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I relieve my mate on it at Battersea in the morning then take that portion up to Wembley where loads of faffing about will ensue to join it up with another portion which comes from Paddington New Yard. Once it’s all nailed together I then take it up the WCML to Bletchley and across the branch to Bedford where I get relief. All in, it’ll be about 4,000 tons when both portions are joined together.
A way short of me then! I'm within a few hundred yards of the Great Central Railway where British gypsum have their east leake mine/branch which then links to the midland mainline a few miles away- though due to a bridge loosing masonry that may not be running right now.
Swithland / Mountsorrel area...?

P5BNij

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Friday 19th March 2021
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Old railway stations can make fantastic homes, not that long ago we looked at buying Dunchurch station on the Rugby - Leamington line when it came up for sale again but after some serious number crunching realised we just couldn’t push things that far. Pity really as it came with a huge garage / workshop that was built in the old goods yard. Would have been a nice family connection too as my great uncle Harry worked there in LMS days.

On my route card there are several old stations which are now private homes still on open mainlines, albeit fenced off - Great Glen, Kibworth Beauchamp, Desborough, Glendon & Rushden, Burton Latimer and Irchester on the Midland Mainline, plus Desford station on the Knighton Junction - Coalville line. There are also a fare number of old goods sheds surviving on the Midland. At the south end of Northampton’s up sidings right next to Spencer Road bridge there’s an LMS water tower which has somehow escaped the reaper.

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Venisonpie said:
mcdjl said:
Google suggests I read. https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/03/watch-heavies...

Going back to 08 shunters I saw one at Derby yesterday.
3,800 tonnes - I imagine that takes some stopping..
It would have done yes as it was fully loaded coming south, but when I worked the empties back north it was only just under 1,200 tons. Quite an eventful day too, I had a bit of trouble with the 70 at Wembley when it kept shutting itself down! I relieved it at Stewarts Lane stone terminal earlier, which is officially called 'Engine Shed Sidings' as its the site of the former steam shed....



Another old station now a private home - Theddingworth on the Rugby - Market Harborough line, the signalbox is now a study / office....




P5BNij

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matchmaker said:
Here's an interior of the original 1956 Cowlairs Panel, taken in the mid 1970's (possibly 1976 - note the shirtless signalman!) The geek standing in the background is yours truly nerd

Just found this.... wink



P5BNij

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Yes, someone sent it to me yesterday wink

Some more of the Rugby - Market Harborough line in 1966, just before it closed....







A visit to Theddingworth in 2010....



Harringworth Viaduct across the Welland Valley around the same time, driving over it is very pleasant in the Summer but the first time I worked over it was at night in thick fog, I could barely see it....








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Saturday 20th March 2021
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KateV8 said:


Wragby in Lincolnshire, now a private house too. Couldn't get a good shot of the platform facing side without being intrusive.
Lovely! The large blue enamel sign on the end gable would be worth a few bob, as would the totem if it's genuine. There's a house not far from me with repro totem by the door which always catches my eye.

Some stuff I took down on the Glos & Warks line a while back during the various gala days....




















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Saturday 20th March 2021
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Tyre Smoke said:
Somebody give me a crash course in the numbering on the front of locomotives please! I know it's something to do with train type, passenger, freight, etc. And when did that stop being a thing?

Thanks!
The old four digit 'headcode' system - the first digit covers the class of train, for instance '0' is a light locomotive on its own, '1' is express passenger, '2' is local stopping passenger, all the way to '9' which is a 25mph freight. The second digit, always a letter denotes to originating region or destination area, 'A' was often London, 'S' is for Scotland, 'V' is for the Western Region, 'M' is for the Midland Region etc. The last two digits are the individual id for that particular train. The system was brought into use in the early '60s and is still in use today (on paper and in official operations), although it ceased to be displayed on the front of trains from 1st January 1976.

Edit - Tonker beat me to it!

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Saturday 20th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Some class 6 freights can run at 65mph depending on the wagon type, the weight and the brake force available. That extra 5mph might not sound like much of a difference, but over a longer journey it can be a godsend with regards to pathing issues.

'X' is often used for Royal Train workings and '1Z99' is nearly always used for light engines going to assist a failed train, despite the light engine code normally being '0'. Some trains can change headcode en route, for instance our regular Battersea Jobs departs as '6M51' as far as Wembley and then runs in another train's path, becoming '6H50' as far as Crewe.

Confused? You will be!



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Sunday 21st March 2021
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Do you mean the tractive effort...?


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Register1 said:
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Do you mean the tractive effort...?
Is that power and weight of loco ?
Not quite - tractive effort is the hauling capacity. Anyway the 70 has about 3,300hp and weighs 129tons if that helps.

Some more preservation era stuff, a mixture from the Great Central, Glos & Warks and Severn Valley lines....



















Edited by P5BNij on Monday 22 March 13:48

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Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
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Remind me - on the side of the cab above the number is the letter D in a red/orange (?) circle, which I think denotes the weight category. What does the X between that and the number mean ?
From (vague!) memory, I think it means that the loco's route availability is increased slightly, something to do with the finely tuned balancing of the moving parts within the frames.

Couple of shots on the West Somerset line....




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Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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B1 'Bongo'...?

Some b&w oldies from photographer Alan F Brookes -

Waterloo c.1965....



Sheffield Victoria in 1966 with a portion of the 'Master Cutler' Pullman train....



North end of Crewe station c.1971....



Brum Snow Hill c.1972 when it was the country's largest unstaffed halt....










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Thursday 25th March 2021
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An unusual signalbox / crossing keeper's cottage at Clifton-by-Ashbourne on the North Staffs line, 1981....



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Friday 26th March 2021
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Gareth1974 said:
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'X' is often used for Royal Train workings....
Not any more, it wasn’t used when I used to plan the Royal Train 20 years ago, and it hasn’t been used since.
Good point, the last time I worked one was 1984!

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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Some more odds and sods -

Crewe North stabling point in June 1969, D423 is still waiting to have its multiple working gear fitted on the front of the cab....



Newfangled AC electrics at Rugby Midland in 1966....



Swindon Works open day in 1974....







Bescot Down Tower again....



Couple of nice views of Nine Elms....





Toton Depot in the '70s....


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Monday 29th March 2021
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With some of those rail tours and excursions there was often the problem of the booked relief not signing the traction and the incoming driver's route knowledge reaching its limit, so the incoming driver would make a killing by staying on it and being conducted over the next part of the route by the relief driver. This happened a few times with some of the 'Western' rail tours that ran in late '76 and into early '77.

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Saturday 15th January 2022
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Bit of a thread bump but I've found some more interesting oldies to post. First up, the very first Brush Type 4 to be built D1500, almost fresh out of the box and lurking in the mist at Grantham on 29th December 1962, the start of the 'big freeze' which would last well into the following March....



A mix of old and the new at Clapham Junction in 1967, along with some images from 'Up The Junction' which was filmed there that year....











Dennis Waterman's old man was a porter at CJ at the time....



Some images from the Stanley Baker film 'Robbery' which was shot at Marylebone (briefly) and at various locations along the Rugby to Peterborough line in March / April '67, the loco, English Electric Type 4 D318 now resides at Tyseley railway museum...



BR had closed the line in June '66 so when the film crew arrived in March '67 they had to clean the tops of the rails which had gone rusty....





























A few years ago a mate and I went to have a look at the bridge near Theddingworth where the robbery sequence was filmed....







When the filming was over Baker threw a party in the pub in Theddingworth for the train crews who were involved in the filming, by all accounts a good time was had by all wink

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 15th January 16:29

P5BNij

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rickygolf83 said:
Fantastic thread, a great read from start to finish!

Thanks for posting folks, keep 'em coming please biggrin
Thanks, will do - in the meantime here's a short clip of a trip across the Thames in 1967 on the West London Line....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwuF6vi45g&t=...