Hi Fi seperates - Black or Silver?

Hi Fi seperates - Black or Silver?

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rabw

8,969 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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To all you lot slating 'running in cables' it can really make a hugely marked difference. No I'm not joking.

BigBen

11,683 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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rabw said:
To all you lot slating 'running in cables' it can really make a hugely marked difference. No I'm not joking.
Care to explain the physics behind this ?

SJobson

12,986 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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BigBen said:
rabw said:
To all you lot slating 'running in cables' it can really make a hugely marked difference. No I'm not joking.
Care to explain the physics behind this ?
Yes, and exactly how many minutes, and what type of music works best...

[I'm a cable sceptic - I don't believe different speaker cables make a difference provided (1) they're up to the job, and (2) they don't themselves deliberately influence the sound by having significant capacitance or reactance.]

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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rabw said:
To all you lot slating 'running in cables' it can really make a hugely marked difference. No I'm not joking.
What have you been told happens in that process exactly?

I should declare at this point that in the past I've had access to a full science lab including an electron microscope.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

272 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Heard of running in speakers, even do it on larger units with demonstrable performance gains but cables?

New one on me I have to admit.

danrc

2,752 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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I've heard it aligns the particles in the cable to allow better transfer of signal. I will add that i did not believe it one bit.

Running in cables my arse, speakers yes, but cables no. Hi fi people can be weird sometimes.

thehawk

9,335 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Plotloss said:
Heard of running in speakers, even do it on larger units with demonstrable performance gains but cables?

New one on me I have to admit.
Speakers are 'mechanical', they are stiff when new and a running in period is good for them.

Speaking of aligning particles in speaker cables, at work we did manage to convince one fool that waving your WAP phone around made it download stuff quicker as the phone will catch more data particles.

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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rabw said:
To all you lot slating 'running in cables' it can really make a hugely marked difference. No I'm not joking.
I call BS on this

do tell?

Adrian W

14,048 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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It's the positronic particles you know, makes a difference at the sub atominc level.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
It's the positronic particles you know, makes a difference at the sub atominc level.
Yup, that's why you should only ever run speaker cables north/south and not east/west. Have we talked about them being directional yet?

Oh and silver on my latest:-


Plotloss

67,280 posts

272 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Good choice, great bit of kit the Transporter.

zagato

1,136 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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shalmaneser said:
Has to be black.

Silver is beyond tacky IMHO. Makes everything look like a £15 DVD player.
100% correct. Black will always be classic and timeless. It's this silver fad which I hate.

SJobson

12,986 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
Adrian W said:
It's the positronic particles you know, makes a difference at the sub atominc level.
Yup, that's why you should only ever run speaker cables north/south and not east/west. Have we talked about them being directional yet?

Oh and silver on my latest:-

I'd like a black Transporter.

You omitted to mention the need to lift your cables off the floor to avoid any capacitive leakage. Russ Andrews sells wooden cable elevators at £13.21 per pair:


AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Not sure the colour is as important at the overall design of the stuff...

My main toy:


SACD / DVD player (which doesn't look the same colour as that is on my monitor):



Also have an xbox / PC and another CD only player that's black, really must take some pics for the home cinema thread.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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SJobson said:
You omitted to mention the need to lift your cables off the floor to avoid any capacitive leakage. Russ Andrews sells wooden cable elevators at £13.21 per pair:

Wouldn't that just make them more prone to microphonic effects? jester

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
SJobson said:
You omitted to mention the need to lift your cables off the floor to avoid any capacitive leakage. Russ Andrews sells wooden cable elevators at £13.21 per pair:

Wouldn't that just make them more prone to microphonic effects? jester
You'd certainly need to space them at anti-nodal intervals or sympathetic resonance would build up and sound a bit like wow and flutter...

Colour goes by decade:

1970s: Silver
1980s: Black
1990s: Silver
2000s: Black

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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From the same shop. Digital interconnects. Says it all really :-


AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Did you by any chance mean the note below the graph hehe

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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AngryS3Owner said:
Did you by any chance mean the note below the graph hehe
I think that the graph exists at all is enough, but yes that last line does top it off nicely.

uriel

3,244 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Trouble with silver, apart from being ugly, is that unless you're buying every separate from the same range of kit, they're all likely to be different shades of silver/champagne/titanium/platinum/bks.