Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
Yahonza said:
biggbn said:
Evercross said:
Snow and Rocks said:
I actually think you're both agreeing with each other.
Probably, but Scots wasn't the issue (and its amazing how some people get defensive when you mention it). Harper is the issue, and her showboating insistence on talking what she thinks is 'Scots' makes her incompetence at it all the more galling, because she is a person who literally struggles to string a coherent sentence together even when she isn't attempting to effect what she believes to be 'talking in Scots'.She should practice the basic skills before attempting something more esoteric.
Angela Constance is another one - intellectually challenged and incapable of anything beyond basic communication and I wouldn't put her in charge of running a bath, yet both her and Harper have become permanent fixtures in the upper echelons of the SNP.

Anyhoo, my opinion ain't worth a damn because it IS a language and is recognised as such, so my linguistic pedantry matters not a jot

Edited by biggbn on Friday 10th May 21:01
irc said:
sherman said:
Continuity. Indy always just round the next corner. Actually just dishonest. There is a good chance Labour will need Scottish MPs for a comfortable majority after the next election. No chance of another indyref unless support for it is well over 50% for a good period of time. If they couldn't move the dial with Brexit and Boris no chance with a UK Labour govt. 
biggbn said:
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Anyhoo, my opinion ain't worth a damn because it IS a language and is recognised as such, so my linguistic pedantry matters not a jot
I disagree entirely.Anyhoo, my opinion ain't worth a damn because it IS a language and is recognised as such, so my linguistic pedantry matters not a jot

So called 'Scots' is a pathetic attempt at indoctrinating some sort of national identity when it's not actually required.
Everyone knows we speak 'funny'. So does the rest of the world.
Some sort of mutual benchmark should be embraced rather than try to establish something that doesn't exist for the sake of being 'Scottishy'. There's plenty of Scottishness to go around without shoving it down other people's thrapples.
Big Rod said:
biggbn said:
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Anyhoo, my opinion ain't worth a damn because it IS a language and is recognised as such, so my linguistic pedantry matters not a jot
I disagree entirely.Anyhoo, my opinion ain't worth a damn because it IS a language and is recognised as such, so my linguistic pedantry matters not a jot

So called 'Scots' is a pathetic attempt at indoctrinating some sort of national identity when it's not actually required.
Everyone knows we speak 'funny'. So does the rest of the world.
Some sort of mutual benchmark should be embraced rather than try to establish something that doesn't exist for the sake of being 'Scottishy'. There's plenty of Scottishness to go around without shoving it down other people's thrapples.
biggbn said:
....again, I don't think it's a language. Interesting debate though.
OK, I'll acknowledge that I maybe misread and I apologise.I'm still aggrieved that it was needlessly foisted upon my children. It serves no purpose and a complete waste of funds that could be used more productively elsewhere.
Big Rod said:
biggbn said:
....again, I don't think it's a language. Interesting debate though.
OK, I'll acknowledge that I maybe misread and I apologise.I'm still aggrieved that it was needlessly foisted upon my children. It serves no purpose and a complete waste of funds that could be used more productively elsewhere.
Composer62 said:
"Scots" isn't a "language" it's a collection of local dialects in the same way that "English" is. The version that Robert Burns wrote down is no more definitive than "Scouse" is to English.

I see what you are getting at, but English is a "Language". All languages change over time - the modern version being the dominant language of the world, if not by numbers (Mandarin far outstripping everything else), but by being the standard in so many areas.
The Greens...they must be raging, first being kicked out of government and now Swinney back tracking on thier policies, the other day Harvie was cleary very angry at FMQ, I wonder how long it will be till the toys are well and truly chucked out the pram.
As much as they all want to keep their snouts in the trough Harvie can't help being an angry wee man when he doesn't get his own way and may at some point think to hell with them were off.
Just a thought.
As much as they all want to keep their snouts in the trough Harvie can't help being an angry wee man when he doesn't get his own way and may at some point think to hell with them were off.
Just a thought.
Klippie said:
The Greens...they must be raging, first being kicked out of government and now Swinney back tracking on thier policies, the other day Harvie was cleary very angry at FMQ, I wonder how long it will be till the toys are well and truly chucked out the pram.
As much as they all want to keep their snouts in the trough Harvie can't help being an angry wee man when he doesn't get his own way and may at some point think to hell with them were off.
Just a thought.
Just real life kicking over ambitious green virtue signalling targets in the baws. They were never going to meet the 2030 targets. The easy wins have been done. Shut coal power stations. Shut Ravenscraig etc while offshoring manufacturing and CO2 to China. Once they started coming for people's cars, gas boilers, and wood burners there was always going to be a reckoning.As much as they all want to keep their snouts in the trough Harvie can't help being an angry wee man when he doesn't get his own way and may at some point think to hell with them were off.
Just a thought.
As for Harvie? Shut your face until you are using a heat pump in your flat before telling other people how to heat their homes.
And the gender bill? Which part of Supreme Court don't you understand? That bill is as dead as the bottle return scheme.
A.J.M said:
The talk of Scot’s language reminded me of the poem from the baby box we got last October.
Is this the caricature of “Scot’s” she’s trying to mimic?
As it’s utter cringe gibberish.
Does anyone on here speak like this in real life?
biggbn said:
A.J.M said:
I hear almost every one of those words if not daily then weekly, but used in conversation. But christ, that poem, whilst not gibberish...you can understand it after all, is appalling, isn't it? And yes, cringeworthy Front page of today’s Herald https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72pg9geezko
Jack McConnell saying “I felt that we had to create a Scottish Parliament to take control of our education system and then drive it to be world class again”
That went well…
Anyway, hasn’t education always been a responsibility of the Scottish Office and not something (practically) dealt with by Westminster?
Jack McConnell saying “I felt that we had to create a Scottish Parliament to take control of our education system and then drive it to be world class again”
That went well…
Anyway, hasn’t education always been a responsibility of the Scottish Office and not something (practically) dealt with by Westminster?
sherman said:
biggbn said:
A.J.M said:
I hear almost every one of those words if not daily then weekly, but used in conversation. But christ, that poem, whilst not gibberish...you can understand it after all, is appalling, isn't it? And yes, cringeworthy Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff