Estate agents fees?

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unrepentant

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Friday 27th March 2009
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Landlord said:
911motorsport said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Under valued
Seriously? Were any of the offers over the asking price? How long should it take for it to be correctly valued?
When I sold my retail property the agent wanted to put it on the market at £40k less than I did on the basis that you attract offers. In the end we compromised and put it on between valuations. We ended up getting £70k more than his valuation so in that respect his advice was good, in that we had lots of viewings and 8 offers. I think in the end the market fixes the price, as long as the property is marketed properly.

Dave_ST220

10,309 posts

207 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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911motorsport said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Under valued
You say that becuase it sold? Plenty of properties in good areas are selling for good ££,dispite what the PH doom merchants say/think.

ipitythefool

12,676 posts

250 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Jasandjules said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Indeed. Plus a lower % means they have to achieve a higher price to get more cash, whereas a high % means they don't care if you get lower offers because they still make plenty....
Except that if an agent has 10 properties for sale, 9 of which on 1.5% and yours on 0.9% - where do you think they'll prioritise resources and effort?

unrepentant

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258 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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ipitythefool said:
Jasandjules said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Indeed. Plus a lower % means they have to achieve a higher price to get more cash, whereas a high % means they don't care if you get lower offers because they still make plenty....
Except that if an agent has 10 properties for sale, 9 of which on 1.5% and yours on 0.9% - where do you think they'll prioritise resources and effort?
Depends how unique your property is...

jon h

863 posts

286 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Dave_ST220 said:
911motorsport said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Under valued
You say that becuase it sold? Plenty of properties in good areas are selling for good ££,dispite what the PH doom merchants say/think.
I have wondered if we under cooked it a little. Problem is that we were in the £250K arena. As stamp duty jumps from 1% to 3% at this point, I reckon if you value anywhere between 250k and say 275K all buyers are going to try to get down to to 250k. The house is un-occupied and in need of work- Frankly I would rather do what we did- shift it quick rather than sitting on the market for ages hoping to achieve a higher price, especially with the market dropping by over 2% a month which is what 2 agents told us is the reality of the current market.


loafer123

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217 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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The jiffle king said:
In these times, it can be worth doing a scale...

e.g. 100k property valutation (Taking into account current conditions and usual caveats etc etc)
up to 80k 1%
80-85k 1.3%
85-90k 1.75%
90-95k 2%

Just an example, but I know this has been recommended on PH before
T-J-K
Yes - I did that. Worked well.

911motorsport

7,251 posts

235 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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jon h said:
Dave_ST220 said:
911motorsport said:
jon h said:
Just sold a house (Subject to contract) Agents fees were 1.35% the highest fee we were quoted was 2.3%- The high fee charging agent scoffed at the "cheap" guys suggesting they would not put much effort in, but I figured that in the current market any estate agent would put a bit of effort in. As it happens we had about 10 viewings resulting in 4 offers, and sold in under 2 weeks!
Under valued
You say that becuase it sold? Plenty of properties in good areas are selling for good ££,dispite what the PH doom merchants say/think.
I have wondered if we under cooked it a little. Problem is that we were in the £250K arena. As stamp duty jumps from 1% to 3% at this point, I reckon if you value anywhere between 250k and say 275K all buyers are going to try to get down to to 250k. The house is un-occupied and in need of work- Frankly I would rather do what we did- shift it quick rather than sitting on the market for ages hoping to achieve a higher price, especially with the market dropping by over 2% a month which is what 2 agents told us is the reality of the current market.
ah yes, the 250k threshold. Makes more sense now yes

unrepentant

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Friday 3rd April 2009
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I've had 3 agents in. They all start off at 1.5% plus marketing costs. I can get them all down, probably to 1% or I can agree the 1.5% and make them pay the marketing. I favour the latter because that way they take the up front risk by shelling out for the nice glossy brochures and ads in glossy magazines etc.. My concern is that if I pay for all that and they don't sell the house I then theoretically have to pay for it all again if I change agents.

Interestingly the spread of the 3 valuations is £200k!

911motorsport

7,251 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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What!!!?

£200k spread?

unrepentant

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Friday 3rd April 2009
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911motorsport said:
What!!!?

£200k spread?
That was pretty much my reaction. hehe

johnfm

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252 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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unrepentant said:
I've had 3 agents in. They all start off at 1.5% plus marketing costs. I can get them all down, probably to 1% or I can agree the 1.5% and make them pay the marketing. I favour the latter because that way they take the up front risk by shelling out for the nice glossy brochures and ads in glossy magazines etc.. My concern is that if I pay for all that and they don't sell the house I then theoretically have to pay for it all again if I change agents.

Interestingly the spread of the 3 valuations is £200k!
A £200k spread is ridiculous - unless it is a £4million house of course!

Merc fan

963 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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I think people have the perception of house valuation as an exact science. It really isn't. You can do it yourself on the net these days. After all, all you are calculating is what your property will sell for in relation to other similar properties have sold for in the area (these are easily checked online these days) and then adjusting for whether the market has risen or fallen since those sales. No two houses are identical so you allow for that too. Remember that anything an estate agent gives you is just his guess based on these factors. Ultimately it is the seller that decides what he wants to sell it for.