More cars you didn't know existed...

More cars you didn't know existed...

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ajprice

27,752 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Subaru Vivio (the 660cc Kei car hatchback, yeah I knew that one)... T-Top (wha?!)



Subaru, not Suzuki, ignore the video title.



Yes it still has a back seat, for amputee dwarf children or people you really hate.

CanAm

9,332 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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This a a bit like a saloon car version of the hateful Suzuki X90

Randy Winkman

16,384 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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ajprice said:
Subaru Vivio (the 660cc Kei car hatchback, yeah I knew that one)... T-Top (wha?!)



Subaru, not Suzuki, ignore the video title.



Yes it still has a back seat, for amputee dwarf children or people you really hate.
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues? I wonder what's the most cramped 4 seater you can buy now versus the most cramped 2+2 of all time?

ajprice

27,752 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Just to clarify, this is the Vivio hatchback it's based on


Doofus

26,163 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues?
Not sure what you mean by 2+2s, because yes, they do still exist. Porsche 911, Lotus Evora, Audi TT, Toyota GT86 all spring immediately to mind.

Axeboy

356 posts

122 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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ajprice said:
Just to clarify, this is the Vivio hatchback it's based on

Also available in a mad wee supercharged 658cc (Im sure its been on these threads long ago)




saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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ajprice said:
Subaru Vivio (the 660cc Kei car hatchback, yeah I knew that one)... T-Top (wha?!)



Subaru, not Suzuki, ignore the video title.



Yes it still has a back seat, for amputee dwarf children or people you really hate.
Doofus said:
Randy Winkman said:
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues?
Not sure what you mean by 2+2s, because yes, they do still exist. Porsche 911, Lotus Evora, Audi TT, Toyota GT86 all spring immediately to mind.
Not quite in the same segments?

Trying to find an Evora under £20k ? Subaru Vivio T top is the answer

Doofus

26,163 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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saaby93 said:
Not quite in the same segments?
No, I know, but as I said; I didn't understand the point he was trying to make.

daveco

4,149 posts

209 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Dapster said:
Well, this is more a special edition I didn't know existed. The BMW Williams F1 Edition.

Apparently it was commissioned by Sytner Group as a dealer special. No mechanical workover at all, just the seats and plaque plus a few factory extras as standard. There were only 26 made, but 26 from across the range - there were a few M3s and even an X5 as well apparently. Such a weird "special" for BMW and Williams to put their names to - from the Ford school of shifting the last few unsold Fiestas in the 90s school of marketing!











https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2019-0...
And it still sold for over £10k, despite having an auto gearbox!

The colour is a one off too IIRC.

In America, 330 ZHPs, m-sport spec with some engine/final drive/suspension mods (though still putting out only slightly more than the euro spec 330 engine) are going for nearly $25k with the right spec

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-330i-zh...

The ZHP mods appear to make it a very rapid and reliable track tool, so that could be part of the attraction.


irocfan

40,724 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Doofus said:
Randy Winkman said:
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues?
Not sure what you mean by 2+2s, because yes, they do still exist. Porsche 911, Lotus Evora, Audi TT, Toyota GT86 all spring immediately to mind.
Although not (strictly speaking) a 2+2 you'd have to be a sadist to put anyone over secondary school age in the back of a 5th Gen Chevy Camaro

irocfan

40,724 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Dapster said:
Have another stunning BMW, the 1969 2002 GT4 Fastback study by Frua. Lovely front end but the designer seems to have lost interest by the time he got to the rear.


Put me in mind of an Audi 100 coupe

CanAm

9,332 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Doofus said:
Randy Winkman said:
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues?
Not sure what you mean by 2+2s, because yes, they do still exist. Porsche 911, Lotus Evora, Audi TT, Toyota GT86 all spring immediately to mind.
The Toyota iQ was the worst. Rear passengers’ backs and heads being just inches from the rear of the car.

Fast Bug

11,774 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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biggbn said:
Fast Bug said:

These will sit happily at 65ish all day long. You can always have a more powerful engine built for them if you wanted
Loved all my air cooled motors, designed to be driven flat out all day long. I'd love another air cooled bug
CSP built one that's slightly quicker biggrin



StefanVXR8

3,603 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Currently available for $1,000 here in Australia... and yes, it is badged correctly wink

A 416 Vitesse Manual.



Stef

StefanVXR8

3,603 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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And another one that intrigued me when I moved down under, a Leyland P76 with a 4.4L V8.

Apparently the general rule of thumb is not to ask an owner about the car, they are mostly an enthusiastic group of owners wink



Stef

aka_kerrly

12,443 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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StefanVXR8 said:
Currently available for $1,000 here in Australia... and yes, it is badged correctly wink

A 416 Vitesse Manual.



Stef
Also known as the Honda Concerto

ajprice

27,752 posts

198 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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aka_kerrly said:
StefanVXR8 said:
Currently available for $1,000 here in Australia... and yes, it is badged correctly wink

A 416 Vitesse Manual.



Stef
Also known as the Honda ConcertoIntegra

Dapster

7,025 posts

182 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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ajprice said:
More shameless badge swappage a generation earlier with the Rover Quintet




biggbn

23,711 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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CanAm said:
This a a bit like a saloon car version of the hateful Suzuki X90
I like the x90!

biggbn

23,711 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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CanAm said:
Doofus said:
Randy Winkman said:
It's not quite on topic but I love 2+2s. Do they even exist now due to safety issues?
Not sure what you mean by 2+2s, because yes, they do still exist. Porsche 911, Lotus Evora, Audi TT, Toyota GT86 all spring immediately to mind.
The Toyota iQ was the worst. Rear passengers’ backs and heads being just inches from the rear of the car.
Iq wasn't a 2 + 2, more a 3 + 1. Absolute masterpiece of packaging, love them