Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3's XL
Discussion
FUBAR said:
I bought a pair of F1 GSD3s a few weeks back from my local tyre place, and now reading this Im off home tonight to check for markings on them 
Having said that they worked faultlessly around the 'Ring recently, so Im guessing Ive got the right ones
Having said that they worked faultlessly around the 'Ring recently, so Im guessing Ive got the right ones
was the track wet or dry? And post up the tyre size please.
ooooo..... I had some f1 put on my car last weekend( back axle, front axle already had f1's so I was matching things up.... its handled like a blancmange on a boat since.... thanks to this thread, I've just seen that my new tyres are from Thailand. Quick chat with the tyre dealer, and verbal quotes of what redlake said.... "Bring it in tomorrow, we'll fit German ones for you."
PH wins again.
PH wins again.
Dear all,
This is Veit from http://www.mytyres.co.uk - Delticom Ltd.
Please be aware that mytyres.co.uk/Delticom Ltd. only sources tyres with "e type" (European) spec. After all, only tyres with "e type" spec are allowed into the EU by EU customs.
Best regards,
Veit
This is Veit from http://www.mytyres.co.uk - Delticom Ltd.
Please be aware that mytyres.co.uk/Delticom Ltd. only sources tyres with "e type" (European) spec. After all, only tyres with "e type" spec are allowed into the EU by EU customs.
Best regards,
Veit
Edited by vmuerz on Friday 18th May 14:10
I've just taken delivery of some F1 GSD3's from Mytyres, and this thread had me worried.
Maybe they are overkill for my repmobile but are we concluding that the tyres made in China are inferior to the German ones? mine have e markings but say made in China and also mention polyester.
They are 205/55/16's so quite small in comparison to what most people here would have but should i worry that the car is going to handle even worse than it does now? also yes i know its a Vectra and a certain Mr Clarkson hates they way they handle...
Was going to bung them on at lunchtime, puzzled...
Maybe they are overkill for my repmobile but are we concluding that the tyres made in China are inferior to the German ones? mine have e markings but say made in China and also mention polyester.
They are 205/55/16's so quite small in comparison to what most people here would have but should i worry that the car is going to handle even worse than it does now? also yes i know its a Vectra and a certain Mr Clarkson hates they way they handle...
Was going to bung them on at lunchtime, puzzled...
Silver Lightning said:
I've just taken delivery of some F1 GSD3's from Mytyres, and this thread had me worried.
Maybe they are overkill for my repmobile but are we concluding that the tyres made in China are inferior to the German ones? mine have e markings but say made in China and also mention polyester.
They are 205/55/16's so quite small in comparison to what most people here would have but should i worry that the car is going to handle even worse than it does now? also yes i know its a Vectra and a certain Mr Clarkson hates they way they handle...
Was going to bung them on at lunchtime, puzzled...
There are a few issues here which overlap, so bear with me....Maybe they are overkill for my repmobile but are we concluding that the tyres made in China are inferior to the German ones? mine have e markings but say made in China and also mention polyester.
They are 205/55/16's so quite small in comparison to what most people here would have but should i worry that the car is going to handle even worse than it does now? also yes i know its a Vectra and a certain Mr Clarkson hates they way they handle...
Was going to bung them on at lunchtime, puzzled...
Mytyres have as far as I am aware always supplied the correct tyres for the european market as they have the correct E-markings.
Goodyear seem to be causing the issues by producing the 'same' tyre in different countries using DIFFERENT materials.
How can a GSD3 tyre perform the same if it is made from different materials? Goodyear keep dodging this basic question.
German tyres are made with Rayon, China tyres with Polyester; examples I have are of new tyres, manufacturered in 2007 within a week of one-another.
Edited by Orangecurry on Thursday 31st May 13:39
Right, I've finally got around to writing this up.
I've not linked it from the main site yet, I was hoping to get some feedback from here to make sure the article is informative and readable.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/tyre-import-i...
Thanks guys.
I've not linked it from the main site yet, I was hoping to get some feedback from here to make sure the article is informative and readable.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/tyre-import-i...
Thanks guys.
jon- said:
Right, I've finally got around to writing this up.
I've not linked it from the main site yet, I was hoping to get some feedback from here to make sure the article is informative and readable.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/tyre-import-i...
Thanks guys.
It's informative and readable, but it's not the correct message - I'm fairly sure that mytyres for instance have never supplied non UK E-marked tyres (i.e. they DO have 6 or 7 numbers after the E marks), but from my widespread research there are tyre-dealers ON GOODYEARS OWN WEBSITE recommended-list who actually have supplied totally non E-marked tyres....I've not linked it from the main site yet, I was hoping to get some feedback from here to make sure the article is informative and readable.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/tyre-import-i...
Thanks guys.
If I were you, I wouldn't want to be sending that message, because I don't know it's true.
IMO I think Goodyear have made a right feck-up, they've been found-out, and they want to try to divert attention onto someone else in order to hide the fact they are making their own tyres cheaply.
Here's two examples in two different tyre sizes delivered this year from mytyres, and they are fully correct for the UK market
Edited by Orangecurry on Wednesday 6th June 15:01
jon- said:
I knew I should have just PMd you Orange 
I've updated the article slightly to remove any "100%" reference. Apart from that you seem to agree the rest is sensible advice for a EXTREMELY complex situation?
I agree it's complex, but IMHO you are being used by Goodyear NOT to help make the roads safer, but to get people to buy their products direct from Goodyear/Dunlop, and that's not the answer. I've updated the article slightly to remove any "100%" reference. Apart from that you seem to agree the rest is sensible advice for a EXTREMELY complex situation?Why not change the article to one written by yourself? Alter the emphasis so that it says
'check the tyres at the garage/when they arrive on the delivery van, and if they don't have the correct E markings, refuse them, and report the supplier blah blah
- that is the key thing, do you not agree?
I also laughed out loud at...
'This problem is a small but growing issue. All the major tyre brands are fighting to eradicate this problem as low quality rubber is a serious safety and performance issue.'
...low quality rubber.... made by? Goodyear/Dunlop.
Orange, I did write the article, I only paraphrased what Goodyear have said in this thread in parts. They had no other input. And while the article uses them as a reference I've tried to make it clear it applies to all brands. I understand your suspicion but knowing the way e-tyre dealers work I believe that GDG aren't feeding us FUD at the moment.
Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
Edited by jon- on Wednesday 6th June 15:57
jon- said:
Orange, I did write the article, I only paraphrased what Goodyear have said in this thread in parts. They had no other input.
Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
sorry Jon - I knew I'd seen the words somewhere before that's what I meant.Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
It makes me so angry that they get on their safety high-horse, and they are the ones manufacturing these dangerous rubber tyres in the first place - their words, not mine.
Orangecurry said:
jon- said:
Orange, I did write the article, I only paraphrased what Goodyear have said in this thread in parts. They had no other input.
Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
sorry Jon - I knew I'd seen the words somewhere before that's what I meant.Good spot at the end. Mental fart that one.
It makes me so angry that they get on their safety high-horse, and they are the ones manufacturing these dangerous rubber tyres in the first place - their words, not mine.
Tyre manufacturers do themselves no favours with the information they provide to their dealers and via they website. I remember 3 years ago trying to get an original MPS and being told by a number of places they were discontinued but 3 years on and we can still buy them in certain sizes.
jon- said:
Orangecurry said:
It makes me so angry that they get on their safety high-horse, and they are the ones manufacturing these dangerous rubber tyres in the first place - their words, not mine.
Perhaps dangerous for our roads but I'm positive they'll be safe somewhere or why produce them? 2) if someone starts talking 'temperature variations', OK but what is your point, as we have a moderate climate, therefore there should be a set of GSD3s for colder climates, and one for 'warmer' - which are the non E-marked ones for? The moon?
And are we prevented from driving on EU E-marked tyres to Norway in winter, or southern Spain in summer? It doesn't get much colder or warmer on our planet (where cars drive).
So, it's because they can make them very cheaply, and then sell them in countries which are either not regulated as well as the EU, or where accidents could be blamed on the poor roads or poor vehicle maintenance, and never on the tyres.
Please someone from Goodyear put me right................... but with some facts please.
a) which markets match which E-marks, and explain why?
b) which markets are ok for tyres made with 'low-quality rubber'?
Edited by Orangecurry on Wednesday 6th June 20:49
I have recently got a set of Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres for my MX5 in Australia Melbourne. The size of the tyre is 205/45R16
I have heard these tyres have problems but only if they were made in Thailand:
http://www.mx-5.com/Community/forum...px?PostID=20...
Unfortunately when I checked my tyres they were made in Thailand...
Initially the Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 were made in Germany, but over time more and more tyres were made in Thailand. (However consumers were not informed about this change, and certanily the price didnt change to reflect the lower quality)
I had read many reviews on the goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 and purchased my tyres based on these great reviews. However I hate the idea that the reviews used the better German made tyres, while Good Year decided to do a "bait and switch" and make inferior tyres in Thailand for us normal consumers.
It should not have to come down to "pot luck" as to wether or not you get a great set of Goodyear tyres made in Germany or a crap set made in Thailand! Considering these are “performance tyres” and I paid top dollar for them, I am bitterly disappointed with their performance.
To orangecurry: It seems like us Australians have to live with the tyres without the "e" mark. Its unfurtunate that Australians dont have the same tough and stringent laws and regulations to protect consumers. Unfortunatly goodyear has decided to take advantage of this and have given Australians the crap set of goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3. I honestly don't understand why I have to live with the second rate crap from goodyear for the next three years of my driving life.
I won’t be buying Goodyear tyres EVER again especially with your “bait and switch” tactics, and the "pot luck" you have to go though to get a good set of Good Year Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres.
I have heard these tyres have problems but only if they were made in Thailand:
http://www.mx-5.com/Community/forum...px?PostID=20...
Unfortunately when I checked my tyres they were made in Thailand...
Initially the Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 were made in Germany, but over time more and more tyres were made in Thailand. (However consumers were not informed about this change, and certanily the price didnt change to reflect the lower quality)
I had read many reviews on the goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 and purchased my tyres based on these great reviews. However I hate the idea that the reviews used the better German made tyres, while Good Year decided to do a "bait and switch" and make inferior tyres in Thailand for us normal consumers.
It should not have to come down to "pot luck" as to wether or not you get a great set of Goodyear tyres made in Germany or a crap set made in Thailand! Considering these are “performance tyres” and I paid top dollar for them, I am bitterly disappointed with their performance.
To orangecurry: It seems like us Australians have to live with the tyres without the "e" mark. Its unfurtunate that Australians dont have the same tough and stringent laws and regulations to protect consumers. Unfortunatly goodyear has decided to take advantage of this and have given Australians the crap set of goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3. I honestly don't understand why I have to live with the second rate crap from goodyear for the next three years of my driving life.
I won’t be buying Goodyear tyres EVER again especially with your “bait and switch” tactics, and the "pot luck" you have to go though to get a good set of Good Year Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres.
Edited by wun911 on Thursday 12th July 05:42
Edited by wun911 on Thursday 12th July 05:50
Edited by wun911 on Thursday 12th July 05:51
wun911 said:
I have recently got a set of Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres for my MX5 in Australia Melbourne. The size of the tyre is 205/45R16
I have heard these tyres have problems but only if they were made in Thailand:
http://www.mx-5.com/Community/forum...px?PostID=20...
Unfortunately when I checked my tyres they were made in Thailand...
Initially the Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 were made in Germany, but over time more and more tyres were made in Thailand. (However consumers were not informed about this change, and certanily the price didnt change to reflect the lower quality)
I had read many reviews on the goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 and purchased my tyres based on these great reviews. However I hate the idea that the reviews used the better German made tyres, while Good Year decided to do a "bait and switch" and make inferior tyres in Thailand for us normal consumers.
It should not have to come down to "pot luck" as to wether or not you get a great set of Goodyear tyres made in Germany or a crap set made in Thailand! Considering these are “performance tyres” and I paid top dollar for them, I am bitterly disappointed with their performance.
To orangecurry: It seems like us Australians have to live with the tyres without the "e" mark. Its unfurtunate that Australians dont have the same tough and stringent laws and regulations to protect consumers. Unfortunatly goodyear has decided to take advantage of this and have given Australians the crap set of goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3. I honestly don't understand why I have to live with the second rate crap from goodyear for the next three years of my driving life.
I won’t be buying Goodyear tyres EVER again especially with your “bait and switch” tactics, and the "pot luck" you have to go though to get a good set of Good Year Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres.
I'm sorry to hear that - it is a joke that a major tyre company sell an inferior version of their OWN performance tyre, but charge the same money.I have heard these tyres have problems but only if they were made in Thailand:
http://www.mx-5.com/Community/forum...px?PostID=20...
Unfortunately when I checked my tyres they were made in Thailand...
Initially the Goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 were made in Germany, but over time more and more tyres were made in Thailand. (However consumers were not informed about this change, and certanily the price didnt change to reflect the lower quality)
I had read many reviews on the goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3 and purchased my tyres based on these great reviews. However I hate the idea that the reviews used the better German made tyres, while Good Year decided to do a "bait and switch" and make inferior tyres in Thailand for us normal consumers.
It should not have to come down to "pot luck" as to wether or not you get a great set of Goodyear tyres made in Germany or a crap set made in Thailand! Considering these are “performance tyres” and I paid top dollar for them, I am bitterly disappointed with their performance.
To orangecurry: It seems like us Australians have to live with the tyres without the "e" mark. Its unfurtunate that Australians dont have the same tough and stringent laws and regulations to protect consumers. Unfortunatly goodyear has decided to take advantage of this and have given Australians the crap set of goodyear eagle F1 GS-D3. I honestly don't understand why I have to live with the second rate crap from goodyear for the next three years of my driving life.
I won’t be buying Goodyear tyres EVER again especially with your “bait and switch” tactics, and the "pot luck" you have to go though to get a good set of Good Year Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres.
Hopefully it will all catch up with them as the word spreads, and they'll get their house in order.
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