RE: Right-hand-drive De Tomaso Pantera for sale
Discussion
If I had the money to do a Pantera resto-mod, it woould be very similar to this:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/1972-detomaso-...
https://www.motortrend.com/features/1972-detomaso-...
Arsecati said:
is there something wrong with me, in that I don't think that price is too bad?
On the one hand, I can't afford it; on the other, compared to other exotica it does seem surprisingly reasonable. It needs more side-wall, but that's easily changed and it's a wonderful colour.
J4CKO said:
pheonix478 said:
Ultra cool looking thing but Koni and Wilwood scream budget job to me.
Thought they were decent brands, what brands would you be looking for ? I operate at the more budget levels so not sure what’s above those ? In this case I'd be slightly wary of the fact that the advert gives so little information on the exact components installed (and perhaps that the seller can't spell Wilwood).
Edited by kambites on Friday 19th April 21:31
Mr Tidy said:
Fantastic car, especially in Orange!
But I'd still prefer a Maserati Bora.
also nice, looked a while ago at one for a reasonable price...But I'd still prefer a Maserati Bora.
then I saw how heavy they are... more then I thought, so I erased it from my bucket list.
I guess a de Tomaso Pantera is also way cheaper in maintenance and easier to DIY?
GTRene said:
I guess a de Tomaso Pantera is also way cheaper in maintenance and easier to DIY?
I suspect it's one of those cars where the bits they borrowed from other manufacturers are cheap, easily accessible and fairly reliable; and the bespoke bits are completely impossible to get hold of, stupidly expensive when you can, and tend to fall apart when you look at them. I still remember (not the day or year) about 30 or so years ago, I was at a classic car show in Utrecht the Netherlands and there was at least one impressive de Tomaso Pantera wide as in say the blue one in the pictures above.
I stood behind the car in that hall and wondered how wide that Pantera looked, I guess low and wide = very impressive when you came out a Fiat 130TC Abarth at that moment
yes there was also a real Porsche 959 on a special place, and I found that one ugly, to be sure I looked at it from different angles, then it became clear to me, I found it ugly, I rather had say a 911 Turbo then that ugly Porsche 959 they wasted the nice lines (to my eyes) and the topper of that show must have been that de Tomaso Pantera which I still positively remember, but also thought, would that wide thing fit through my (at the times were I lived) narrow wooden Grage door
I stood behind the car in that hall and wondered how wide that Pantera looked, I guess low and wide = very impressive when you came out a Fiat 130TC Abarth at that moment
yes there was also a real Porsche 959 on a special place, and I found that one ugly, to be sure I looked at it from different angles, then it became clear to me, I found it ugly, I rather had say a 911 Turbo then that ugly Porsche 959 they wasted the nice lines (to my eyes) and the topper of that show must have been that de Tomaso Pantera which I still positively remember, but also thought, would that wide thing fit through my (at the times were I lived) narrow wooden Grage door
Ray_Aber said:
This is a lovely looking car, with an "in period" colour choice. What jars are the black wheels. Panteras did not, to my knowledge, ever have black wheels. They just look gash/naff/chav/vulgar (insert adjective)
Yep, the vulgar black wheels and rubber band tyres ruin it, but its an easy fix to bin them and put some proper wheels and tyres on it.kambites said:
J4CKO said:
pheonix478 said:
Ultra cool looking thing but Koni and Wilwood scream budget job to me.
Thought they were decent brands, what brands would you be looking for ? I operate at the more budget levels so not sure what’s above those ? In this case I'd be slightly wary of the fact that the advert gives so little information on the exact components installed (and perhaps that the seller can't spell Wilwood).
Edited by kambites on Friday 19th April 21:31
The Wilwood brake conversion is excellent, and a well thought out kit that presents an enormous upgrade over the standard Girling brakes. Fitment isn't easy on Pantera, especially the wide body cars with the 14" wide, 15" diameter Campag wheels.
Koni dampers were stock on the Pantera, but obviously there can be a large improvement in using a modern version of the Koni shocks. Unless you have something made bespoke, you aren't going to find a fitment with KW or similar. The Pantera was pretty ahead of the game with all round double-wishbone suspension.
It's very common to modify Pantera, and it is considered more than acceptable to do so. The US market, where there are far more of them, you tend to see much wilder conversions, with Chrome large diameter wheels, unusual body/light modifications, Twin-Turbo set ups, etc...
My car isn't original, and in my opinion all the better for it. Originally a white GTS in the seventies, its now a wide body GT5, in Porsche Iris Blue Metallic, running much more power than when new (470bhp), Ohlins dampers, and the aforementioned Wilwood conversion.
Anyone heading down to Goodwood for the 100th Anniversary Breakfast Club, it will be part of a dedicated display of Italian cars, and I relish the drive down there!!!
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