981 Boxster GTS…am I going mad?

981 Boxster GTS…am I going mad?

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TTmonkey

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20,911 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Bear in mind…. In a couple of years, on the new car…. there will be no gearbox. No engine sound. No third pedal. Probably regen braking therefore no brake feel. No down shifting blips. No pops and burbles. And acceleration that will likely give you neck ache.

And when you go on a road trip you’ll be stopping every couple of hours for enforced expensive coffee breaks of up to an hour.

Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Ironically, with all that neck ache, a rest stop every few hours would be most welcome!

But you make a fair observation: the (new Porsche) drivetrain fundamentals are shortly to change, and we will have a whole new set of qualities to consider and judge.

Back to the OP, though - what will the electric Boxster do to the ‘flat ICE’ market I wonder? smile

981Boxess

11,371 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Christian P said:
But you make a fair observation: the (new Porsche) drivetrain fundamentals are shortly to change, and we will have a whole new set of qualities to consider and judge.

Back to the OP, though - what will the electric Boxster do to the ‘flat ICE’ market I wonder? smile
I won't be judging them I won't be buying an EV sporstcar, but as I will still need 'transport' I will no doubt be forced into an EV of sorts eventually, but the sportscar thing will end there for me.

If Porsche came to me today with a Boxster EV and offered me a straight swap with my worth half as much 981 I would respectfully decline.


Edited by 981Boxess on Thursday 14th September 15:38

Quickmoose

4,520 posts

124 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Bear in mind…. In a couple of years, on the new car…. there will be no gearbox. No engine sound. No third pedal. Probably regen braking therefore no brake feel. No down shifting blips. No pops and burbles. And acceleration that will likely give you neck ache.

And when you go on a road trip you’ll be stopping every couple of hours for enforced expensive coffee breaks of up to an hour.
And that for me is the reason why I wanted a manual car. An auto/PDK wasn't offered in the 981 Spyder so that was a good fit. I know how good the PDK box is, I want one, and one day I'll have one.
I persuaded a friend of mine recently to get the NA 981 Cayman GTS over the FI 718 version, he chose PDK and it is glorious. But right now, with the direction of travel as it is in the auto industry, my 'old fashioned' car ain't going nowhere.

rawenghey

486 posts

22 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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981Boxess said:
Christian P said:
But you make a fair observation: the (new Porsche) drivetrain fundamentals are shortly to change, and we will have a whole new set of qualities to consider and judge.

Back to the OP, though - what will the electric Boxster do to the ‘flat ICE’ market I wonder? smile
I won't be judging them I won't be buying an EV sporstcar, but as I will still need 'transport' I will no doubt be forced into an EV of sorts eventually, but the sportscar thing will end there for me.

If Porsche came to me today with a Boxster EV and offered me a straight swap with my worth half as much 981 I would respectively decline.
Same here. Providing we're still allowed to have track days, there'll still be a need for an engaging car to drive - whatever you perceive that to be. Failing that, I'll probably move onto another hobby like finishing off my PPL. Assuming that also doesn't get banned or made prohibitively expensive.

I mean Porsche will still probably do brilliantly out of the EV Caysters. There'll be enough new car for new car's sake types just buying the latest whatever. Us enthusiasts will stomp our feet and move onto older cars I suppose.

Edited by rawenghey on Thursday 14th September 15:27

Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Can anybody explain to me what the extra £10,000 buys you?

Auto-dimming mirrors, piano black exterior and PVT, yes. But - really?!

Genuinely don’t understand the spread.


Quickmoose

4,520 posts

124 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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that is a lot of cash for a manual box....

Swine Enthusiast

313 posts

105 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Christian P said:
Can anybody explain to me what the extra £10,000 buys you?

Auto-dimming mirrors, piano black exterior and PVT, yes. But - really?!

Genuinely don’t understand the spread.

Erm, it's red?

Quickmoose

4,520 posts

124 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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1-2 years 'younger'

Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Quickmoose said:
1-2 years 'younger'
Mmmm. I did spot that. Though the mileage is near identical, so take your pick.

Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Swine Enthusiast said:
Erm, it's red?
My apologies. The Carmine Red car has the exterior GTS pack too, with the piano black finish to various bits of trim. A roughly £650 option, in period.

JeffC

1,690 posts

213 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Christian P said:
Can anybody explain to me what the extra £10,000 buys you?

Auto-dimming mirrors, piano black exterior and PVT, yes. But - really?!

Genuinely don’t understand the spread.
I would imagine the extra £10k goes towards heating the swimming pool and the running of the helicopter. I can't imagine it selling anytime soon now the weather has turned, will be interesting to see how many of these cars are still for sale come March.
could be worth a screenshot of the current 18 cars listed and compare in 6 months time see how prices have faired.


Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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smile

Well quite.

Screenshot: I might just do that. Some of them have become rather sticky, haven’t they?

testdrive

2,909 posts

196 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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The extra £10k comes with the exclusive opportunity to lose a further £15k.

Christian P

64 posts

9 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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testdrive said:
The extra £10k comes with the exclusive opportunity to lose a further £15k.
Oddly, not mentioned in the particulars…

JasonSteel

567 posts

97 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Quickmoose said:
that is a lot of cash for a manual box....
i think that once the Cayster (and all cars) goes electric, and has the speed advantage over PDK, attention will switch from PDK to manual

edit: doesn't mean it's worth 10k more though

GT3Manthey

4,554 posts

50 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Looking at the 981 Spyders. Few hanging around and not selling . What was the original list price ?

Armitage.Shanks

2,290 posts

86 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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GT3Manthey said:
Looking at the 981 Spyders. Few hanging around and not selling . What was the original list price ?
£60,459 as it stands in base model. So around £70k with tasteful options. The one at JZM looks 'reasonable value' compared to some daft prices and IMHO the heated 18-way seats are better than buckets as these cars are ideally for jaunts to sunny EU places not a track. Anything over £70k is way way overpriced however you wrap it.

I'm looking for a 981 Boxster 2.7 with decent options to tide me over and use daily. Seen one I like but in my mind it's overpriced and my head says wait until after Christmas.

GT3Manthey

4,554 posts

50 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Armitage.Shanks said:
£60,459 as it stands in base model. So around £70k with tasteful options. The one at JZM looks 'reasonable value' compared to some daft prices and IMHO the heated 18-way seats are better than buckets as these cars are ideally for jaunts to sunny EU places not a track. Anything over £70k is way way overpriced however you wrap it.

I'm looking for a 981 Boxster 2.7 with decent options to tide me over and use daily. Seen one I like but in my mind it's overpriced and my head says wait until after Christmas.
Definitely no rush.

What doesnt add to me Is that a 991 2016 RS with 11k miles on CC’s doesn’t make the original sale price & yet people asking unchanged original purchase price for a 2015/16 Spyder.
Also a 2015 GT4 with more tech suspension etc can be had for 65/66k with miles and that was 4k more list.

The RS is a halo car & the Spyder 981 isn’t .

Don’t get me wrong I love em but I can’t help but think the relative value is all wrong.

Edited by GT3Manthey on Saturday 16th September 06:53

TTmonkey

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20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Skid pan fun at Thruxton this morning.

Sideways and occasionally backwards lol.
I’m no driving god!