EVs... no one wants them!

I have no doubt it's a great car and great fun to drive - I'd love one, it's my perfect daily - I actually looked at one (before I saw the price!)

But it's not a small two seater open top sports car, which is my particular need at the moment.

I’m waiting to try an Ionic N to see if I should change my EV6 GT for one, they sound incredible.

I do rather like the alternative form of involvement that the pure EV gives though, I agree in trying to ape a traditional powertrain with all its inherent flaws, that seems to me to be backwards looking.

I prefer the looks of the EV6 as well

I turned off the synthetic engine noise (which is a bit V8 like) in my car after about 5 minutes

"the EV supporters who have made a type of propulsion their identity" Can you actually show me anyone here who is like that? I'm interested in the EV scene (simply because I am a motoring enthusiast) but I have never come across anyone like how you describe, and certainly not here on Pistonheads.

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A few weeks back I was driving a car with two mates onboard. All 3 of us are lifelong car/motoring enthusiasts, my two pals being far more hardcore than me. One has had a long life in rallying, he has built some lovely cars over the years, his family were out on the Rallynuts stages last weekend, his two sons competing on the event. The other guy has done all sorts of things including motorcycling to China and across Russia to Vladivostock, has been involved in karting and all manner of things, is currently building a car for a Historic Monte.

The three of us were in the car because we were returning from an all-nighter marshalling on the Lands End Trial. These two guys both currently own hybrids, amongst many other cars, and have had other EVs prior. The three of us discussed EVs in length, the other two going into the nitty gritty of their BMW i3s they currently own. And yes, how they drove was very much discussed.

I think the way you are talking BlackTank, is of the way people do when they see their petrol head credentials as some kind of badge of honour. This kind of talk/behaviour leads people to buy all kinds of unsuitable and impractical cars (the kind that are usually sold with few miles on the clock, because they're not a great drive) , again like they're some kind of badge of honour of hardcore-petrolheadship-one-upmanship.

What you call 'driving enthusiasts' is what I often question - I think many 'driving enthusiasts' are completely full of bullst, I think the whole ethos and thinking around a particular genre of enthusiasts car is indeed just bullst.

REAL enthusiasts don't speak as you do, in my very own honest and personal opinion. Certainly not the real enthusiasts I've come across in my lifetime anyway.

And I'd still be interested to see who it is that you think "have made a type of propulsion their identity."

Type in VW tattoo into google. There are some strange people out there.

I currently drive a plug-in hybrid XC40. Some say plug-ins are the worst of both worlds, others think they are the dog's danglie's. For me, it's a no-risk way of trying electric motoring. I'm convinced, and full electric is on the cards for me next.

As for "driving pleasure", I've been there, done that. I used to love thrashing around on motorbikes. Same with cars - just driving for the sake of it in the evenings when the roads cleared. I even got pleasure from driving my first "car" - a Reliant Robin 750.

I did the hot hatch thing, variety of Fords (XR2s, 3s and a 4i), a Westfield and a Mini, before getting a company car.
Having to do 40k miles a year for work in succession of repmobiles tucked all the pleasure out of driving.

I tried to rekindle the passion with a 964 911, 987 Boxster S, Z4, couple of MX5s, Cooper S, etc., but either I was too old, or there's just too much traffic and too many cameras around these days.

I'm content to mostly just potter around, with the occasional bit of rapid overtaking.
An EV will suit me just fine.

I was responding to the "the brainwashed cultist EV loons" comment - which I assume you think is an acceptable view?

Top tip and its free.......dont buy one! Easy innit

You ARE, you ARE. The hypocrisy on this thread, and others, is hilarious. All that's wrong with PH

You don’t find the lack of blacksmiths an inconvenience? Our local one closed down 40years ago……..
Having said that refueling is easier and when it finally gives up and heads to that big stable in the sky you can eat it…..proper sustainability right there…..

You guys crack me up!