fuel pump fails in current production
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bcr5784 said:
An earlier post from Alpine seemed to confirm that cars prior October 18 weren't afflicted - but it's odd that I have had the email about the recall from them. Have you had the email?
the first australian PE number 1 of 60 was apparently built on 1st Sep 2018 and these PEs definitely have the fp problem. This is prior to October 2018.I came across this website in Japan from a FB post. They have a number of really interesting mods around heat / cooling.
https://www.satoruworks.com
In particular they sell 3 mods for cooling, after pointing out that the A110 was designed In France where hot temps are not anticipated.
a) front radiator aluminium shroud. This is fitted after temporarily removing the frunk to get access. It stops the heat from going up and heating up the frunk and the battery areas. They point out it will extend the life of all the plastics in the front and stop your groceries from being spoiled by heat and lower fuel temps.
b) front underbody panel, with vents. This in conjunction with (a), redirects the heat down and out of the car. The fuel tank is then measured and confirmed to be at ambient temps all the time with any kind of forward motion, instead of at high temps.
c) lower rear engine vent. This is an aluminium panel with vents that exhausts air from engine bay downward under car. They say it is measured to reduce engine bay temps dramatically in hot weather. There are some impressive temp drops including in oil temps and inlet air temps.
If I can order these from Japan I'm definitely going to get all three.
They have a number of other fascinating parts as well. An old school electronic pod type boost gauge for A pillar, low dust brake pads and some very expensive very nice dry carbon aero parts, among other things..
They also have a product for adding tilt to the fixed bucket seats. You remove the fixed runners and send them, they mod them to allow 3 steps of rear tilt to be selected for comfort. it isn't clear if the tilt can be done in motion or is more fiddly.
https://www.satoruworks.com
In particular they sell 3 mods for cooling, after pointing out that the A110 was designed In France where hot temps are not anticipated.
a) front radiator aluminium shroud. This is fitted after temporarily removing the frunk to get access. It stops the heat from going up and heating up the frunk and the battery areas. They point out it will extend the life of all the plastics in the front and stop your groceries from being spoiled by heat and lower fuel temps.
b) front underbody panel, with vents. This in conjunction with (a), redirects the heat down and out of the car. The fuel tank is then measured and confirmed to be at ambient temps all the time with any kind of forward motion, instead of at high temps.
c) lower rear engine vent. This is an aluminium panel with vents that exhausts air from engine bay downward under car. They say it is measured to reduce engine bay temps dramatically in hot weather. There are some impressive temp drops including in oil temps and inlet air temps.
If I can order these from Japan I'm definitely going to get all three.
They have a number of other fascinating parts as well. An old school electronic pod type boost gauge for A pillar, low dust brake pads and some very expensive very nice dry carbon aero parts, among other things..
They also have a product for adding tilt to the fixed bucket seats. You remove the fixed runners and send them, they mod them to allow 3 steps of rear tilt to be selected for comfort. it isn't clear if the tilt can be done in motion or is more fiddly.
Edited by a110au on Sunday 26th November 23:17
Satoruworks will not sell to proxy buying services, or to foreigners, or to anyone suspected of helping foreigners get a part.
Apparently the venerable owner, who was less unreasonable, died recently and the current owner is completely against any foreign sales.
In other news, two new FP failures floated by in FB. One in Spain. Stranded with 1/5th of a tank.
The other was mentioned in comments as happening last week in UK but the car restarted and he got home.
Apparently the venerable owner, who was less unreasonable, died recently and the current owner is completely against any foreign sales.
In other news, two new FP failures floated by in FB. One in Spain. Stranded with 1/5th of a tank.
The other was mentioned in comments as happening last week in UK but the car restarted and he got home.
HokumPokum said:
First of all, the south of France does get hot in the summer..... in this day and age, most countries experience severe hot weather.
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that would explain why there are a large number of fp failures in France too..
but there is also more heat soak stress when commuting in a hot climate than racing through the French countryside in August.
I have had the top trim strip removed for a while because it dropped the temp around the battery from 65c in hot weather, in traffic to only 5-10c over ambient. But it is unsightly.
Julian Thompson said:
No it really wouldn’t! It would just show that there are more Alpines that get used in the nice weather in the south of France than there are in, say, Anglesey or the Isle Of Wight!
what I am saying isa) the car is rear engined with a challenging shape for air intakes
b) it was likely heat tested in France
c) Europe has had a lot of heat waves since it was designed
d) tokyo and australia, two export markets with long hot summers and urban traffic, have had a high percentage of fp failures
e) saturoworks have identified high temps and addressed them, their implication is the car lacked some final thermal polish
f) fp failures reached a crescendo in europe summer
g) alpine had to redesign the front wheel well plastics to vent more air through radiators because of summer on-track problems.
So unless you disbelieve completely a thermal cause, it is quite logical to hint the French may not have gone that extra lap to check for long term operating temp degradation when ambient air is 30c plus and the car is in traffic - beyond verifying the engine stays within safe operating temp.
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