2001 Honda Insight ZE1 - Citrus Yellow
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Scope creep ahoy!
With the warning lights doused I almost waited patiently for the rear speakers... until I remembered this would be an ideal opportunity to track down any final leaks.
Just a handful of screws and clips secure the handbrake trim, console and main carpet - all swiftly removed for a good clean and demould.
Sure enough, damp in the footwells... this could be historic so I thought best to pull the whole lot out, dry it out and see what happens.
Random FT supplement... and black mould propogator.
I only had to wait a day or two for the first false british summer period to expire and rain sweep in. Behold, leak discovered at the front the doors, under the speaker panel. A cursory scamper through the 80s neon drenched Matrix known as 'insightcentral' revealed this could be as simple as the door membranes needing to be resealed. WIthout them water pools in the door seal and overflows onto the inside.
Next up - some top draw door card action...
With the warning lights doused I almost waited patiently for the rear speakers... until I remembered this would be an ideal opportunity to track down any final leaks.
Just a handful of screws and clips secure the handbrake trim, console and main carpet - all swiftly removed for a good clean and demould.
Sure enough, damp in the footwells... this could be historic so I thought best to pull the whole lot out, dry it out and see what happens.
Random FT supplement... and black mould propogator.
I only had to wait a day or two for the first false british summer period to expire and rain sweep in. Behold, leak discovered at the front the doors, under the speaker panel. A cursory scamper through the 80s neon drenched Matrix known as 'insightcentral' revealed this could be as simple as the door membranes needing to be resealed. WIthout them water pools in the door seal and overflows onto the inside.
Next up - some top draw door card action...
Edited by Spinakerr on Sunday 26th May 10:00
Door cards on the Insight match the rest of the construction philosophy - simple, small number of fittings, well designed.
The wing mirror reverse trim pops off, one scren in the pull handle and two in the grab handle.
Two more behind the speaker grille, and the card then pops and lifts off, thankfully the door handle mechanism and lever can be left in place. I'm glad I modified those speaker terminals rather than soldering them on - neatly unclipped!
Membrane is in place, but the evidence of leakage is clear.
Driver's side had perhaps been looked at by a previous owner. While the gaffer tape looks bad, there is a decent black silicone bead underneath.
I dusted off the tube of OB1 I had used to seal the roof, and the nice lady at screwfix gave me a few spare nozzles when I pleaded my case (and they were out of stock for a multipack), so both membranes were carefully resealed.
That may be the end of it... we'll see. I'm sure somethign else will now develop.
While I had the sealant gun in hand I also slathered the boot electric seal, which can be another cause of water ingress.
Next up - after some failed attempts, the Pioneer two ways arrived with suitable innocuous and inoffensive grille design. Why do so many speakers look like the torture implements laid out for Bond in Tomorrow Never Dies?
Some gentle modification to the aluminium panel, some new holes drilled and test fit looks good. Once the carpet is freshly cleaned I can make the incision and ensure they sit flush.
As they are Pioneer to match the front (and the head unit) I know I can modify the terminals to remain clippable.
Finally - carpet cleaning and 'refitting is the reversal of removal' Haynes-style aggrevated completion.
The wing mirror reverse trim pops off, one scren in the pull handle and two in the grab handle.
Two more behind the speaker grille, and the card then pops and lifts off, thankfully the door handle mechanism and lever can be left in place. I'm glad I modified those speaker terminals rather than soldering them on - neatly unclipped!
Membrane is in place, but the evidence of leakage is clear.
Driver's side had perhaps been looked at by a previous owner. While the gaffer tape looks bad, there is a decent black silicone bead underneath.
I dusted off the tube of OB1 I had used to seal the roof, and the nice lady at screwfix gave me a few spare nozzles when I pleaded my case (and they were out of stock for a multipack), so both membranes were carefully resealed.
That may be the end of it... we'll see. I'm sure somethign else will now develop.
While I had the sealant gun in hand I also slathered the boot electric seal, which can be another cause of water ingress.
Next up - after some failed attempts, the Pioneer two ways arrived with suitable innocuous and inoffensive grille design. Why do so many speakers look like the torture implements laid out for Bond in Tomorrow Never Dies?
Some gentle modification to the aluminium panel, some new holes drilled and test fit looks good. Once the carpet is freshly cleaned I can make the incision and ensure they sit flush.
As they are Pioneer to match the front (and the head unit) I know I can modify the terminals to remain clippable.
Finally - carpet cleaning and 'refitting is the reversal of removal' Haynes-style aggrevated completion.
Spinakerr said:
Membrane is in place, but the evidence of leakage is clear.
Driver's side had perhaps been looked at by a previous owner. While the gaffer tape looks bad, there is a decent black silicone bead underneath.
I dusted off the tube of OB1 I had used to seal the roof, and the nice lady at screwfix gave me a few spare nozzles when I pleaded my case (and they were out of stock for a multipack), so both membranes were carefully resealed.
That may be the end of it... we'll see. I'm sure somethign else will now develop.
To get water to the level of that speaker hole is a lot of damn water - do the bottom of the doors not have drain slots/holes?Driver's side had perhaps been looked at by a previous owner. While the gaffer tape looks bad, there is a decent black silicone bead underneath.
I dusted off the tube of OB1 I had used to seal the roof, and the nice lady at screwfix gave me a few spare nozzles when I pleaded my case (and they were out of stock for a multipack), so both membranes were carefully resealed.
That may be the end of it... we'll see. I'm sure somethign else will now develop.
It is a decent design for the door - the drain holes are neat and arranged correctly, but any rain entering from the weatherstrip and glass angle would hit the mebrane and then leak in before it gets to the drains. Hopefully this little round has lessened it!
No date on the FT, it was so encrusted with black mould I didnt study it directly. The previous owbet did say he helped the owner before him take some of the interior out.
More hiae testing and interior refitting to follow over the bank holiday I hope!
No date on the FT, it was so encrusted with black mould I didnt study it directly. The previous owbet did say he helped the owner before him take some of the interior out.
More hiae testing and interior refitting to follow over the bank holiday I hope!
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