Pembleton mkII - Tin Tub
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Hi Lew,
Thanks. I'm just the other side of Northampton. Been a few years since I've been to a st Neots meet. Are they still occurring?
I used to live in Rushden, so I'm about another +25mins now.
Not seen a stolly update for a while but seen you're progressing with the Ferret.
Still amazes me just the sheer size if all the mechanicals on those things. Bet the stolly engine/box is a fair chunk heavier than the entire pembleton!
Thanks. I'm just the other side of Northampton. Been a few years since I've been to a st Neots meet. Are they still occurring?
I used to live in Rushden, so I'm about another +25mins now.
Not seen a stolly update for a while but seen you're progressing with the Ferret.
Still amazes me just the sheer size if all the mechanicals on those things. Bet the stolly engine/box is a fair chunk heavier than the entire pembleton!
Minor update:
Cockpit edging trim. What a complete arse of a job.
It's 16mm×9mm aluminium half hard extrusion.
I spoke to a few people and they said the trick was anneal, anneal, anneal and form with welding gloves...
Tried that.
What happened was I covered my arms and hands with burns, swore a lot and ended up with a horrible, deformed, twisted mess....
So I made up a little tool to form the bends without warping or twisting it.... (or the need for any heat)
This did leave some bruising in the surface, but nothing that couldn't be removed with various abrasives.
It still took a good couple of days/evenings to get it all formed to a reasonable level though.
I split it into two bits, one round the front and one round the back, joining down the sides. The sides will have padded armrests on, hiding the joins and tabs.
Cockpit edging trim. What a complete arse of a job.
It's 16mm×9mm aluminium half hard extrusion.
I spoke to a few people and they said the trick was anneal, anneal, anneal and form with welding gloves...
Tried that.
What happened was I covered my arms and hands with burns, swore a lot and ended up with a horrible, deformed, twisted mess....
So I made up a little tool to form the bends without warping or twisting it.... (or the need for any heat)
This did leave some bruising in the surface, but nothing that couldn't be removed with various abrasives.
It still took a good couple of days/evenings to get it all formed to a reasonable level though.
I split it into two bits, one round the front and one round the back, joining down the sides. The sides will have padded armrests on, hiding the joins and tabs.
The garage has been unbearable the last few weeks. Far too hot. Once the sun comes round the front the it beats down on two sides of the garage, the door and the roof and it just gets hotter and hotter. Grinding, welding etc doesn't help.
Picked up this baby on ebay second hand.
24". The amount of air it shifts is borderline offensive. It ain't quiet but then it doesn't need to be.
https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637189521/24-ind...
I paid £75 for it and it's just like new.
Picked up this baby on ebay second hand.
24". The amount of air it shifts is borderline offensive. It ain't quiet but then it doesn't need to be.
https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637189521/24-ind...
I paid £75 for it and it's just like new.
timbo999 said:
Just to keep you going, and 'cos I love the way it looks, here is a picture of my Dad's Morgan in about 1949. Bought not long after he was demobbed and came back from the Pacific... not too many new cars about at that point!
I always think that the most amazing thing about that picture is that there are no other cars in the road...
Those were the days! Lovely pic. I always think that the most amazing thing about that picture is that there are no other cars in the road...
Thanks scrump, its not perfect, but it adds to the patination. To say it was a pain in the arse would be an understatement!
For anyone who remembers back to January 2019 (where tf does time go?!), I had the forethought back then to modify the Ami swivels to include bracketry at the rear as well as the front for some wing stays...
The front chunky mounts (M10) were originally for inertia dampers...
I hatched a plan a week or so back and ordered a length of half inch EN8 bar. I had a couple of meters of 30x30x3 angle iron already.
Bit of measuring, cutting, grinding, drilling, heating and bending later I have one side tacked up.
Please ignore the M10 bolts that are about 25mm too long (and the m12 nuts used as spacers), I need to get some that are the right length...
Just need to do the other side, fully weld, work out how to affix the wings, prime and paint....
For anyone who remembers back to January 2019 (where tf does time go?!), I had the forethought back then to modify the Ami swivels to include bracketry at the rear as well as the front for some wing stays...
The front chunky mounts (M10) were originally for inertia dampers...
In Jan2019 Ambleton said:
Welllll..... thought it was about high time I actually utilised them and scheme up some bracketry for the wings.
I hatched a plan a week or so back and ordered a length of half inch EN8 bar. I had a couple of meters of 30x30x3 angle iron already.
Bit of measuring, cutting, grinding, drilling, heating and bending later I have one side tacked up.
Please ignore the M10 bolts that are about 25mm too long (and the m12 nuts used as spacers), I need to get some that are the right length...
Just need to do the other side, fully weld, work out how to affix the wings, prime and paint....
Edited by Ambleton on Sunday 14th August 22:26
I've restored cars, and built kits in the past, but I have to say that I continue to be hugely impressed with your attention to detail as well as your engineering and fabrication skills.
I've known people in the past for whom the journey is everything and the destination not necessarily part of the dream, but I don't think you're one of those; you just want it done right.
I've known people in the past for whom the journey is everything and the destination not necessarily part of the dream, but I don't think you're one of those; you just want it done right.
Ta very much. I know it may sound daft, but the "destination" is really all I care about.
I cant afford for a company or individual to build a car from scratch for me. I tried buying a pembleton and despite a lot of money and mods even that wasn't quite right for me in the end (height/width issue). Although it was a much better car when I sold it (and a reformed serial attempted murderer).
The journey is, tbh, a nescessary evil. That may sound like an odd way of putting it, but really there have been many times where I've been annoyed, head in hands, and hugely out of my depth. I want it to look a particular way and that means going off piste with a lot of bits, basically making it all up as I go along. Doesn't help that I'm a messy bugger
Purchased parts that haven't fit, made parts that I think look crap and remade a dozen times and then think "oh f
k it that'll do". Coming up with whacky solutions to problems nobody else cares enought about (rear lights being one such thing)
My pal keeps telling me that "perfection is the enemy of excellence", and really without that I think I'd still be pissing about with meaningless bits that no one would ever see/notice. I just need to get the bloody thing OTR so I can enjoy it.
I cant afford for a company or individual to build a car from scratch for me. I tried buying a pembleton and despite a lot of money and mods even that wasn't quite right for me in the end (height/width issue). Although it was a much better car when I sold it (and a reformed serial attempted murderer).
The journey is, tbh, a nescessary evil. That may sound like an odd way of putting it, but really there have been many times where I've been annoyed, head in hands, and hugely out of my depth. I want it to look a particular way and that means going off piste with a lot of bits, basically making it all up as I go along. Doesn't help that I'm a messy bugger
Purchased parts that haven't fit, made parts that I think look crap and remade a dozen times and then think "oh f
k it that'll do". Coming up with whacky solutions to problems nobody else cares enought about (rear lights being one such thing)My pal keeps telling me that "perfection is the enemy of excellence", and really without that I think I'd still be pissing about with meaningless bits that no one would ever see/notice. I just need to get the bloody thing OTR so I can enjoy it.
Both sets of wing brackets now tacked up are looking amazingly symmetrical. The RHS fwd stay needed the tacks cutting and grinding first time round as it was a smidge high, but thats corrected now.
Next job is to work out how to mount the wings to them...
My wings we made for me by another pembleton builder, metalworker, vintage bike and car enthusiast, and all round good egg, Duncan, who helped me back in (checks thread) 2018 (jfc) to fold the floor....
Next job is to work out how to mount the wings to them...
My wings we made for me by another pembleton builder, metalworker, vintage bike and car enthusiast, and all round good egg, Duncan, who helped me back in (checks thread) 2018 (jfc) to fold the floor....
Right... So.... Where were we.....
Christmas has come and gone and I suppose I better don my garage scruffs and bugger on with the Pembleton.
I was pondering mirrors and bought a pair of motorbike ones that are CE marked. I could've just drilled a hole through the bodywork and mounted then that way but instead I've made up some cranked stalks from some brass rod and some little mounting blocks out of some aluminium bar stock.
Please ignore the M5 screws sticking out. They'll be replaced with grub screws. Fixed with 4xM6 from the inside.
I've also made up some proper bracketry out of 2mm aluminium for the silencers. To mount back to the bodywork.
I've also refitted the nosecone and started to do the rest of the extruded edging.
And a detail for my wife...
|https://thumbsnap.com/L6W9VoGd[/url]
(Which will be removed for MSVA)
Yes, I know it's not sitting flat, it's only placed on loosely.
I don't really have many big jobs to do now.
All little pissy jobs.
- Make a handbrake lever
- Connect the handbrake and make a little surround where the rod goes through the bulkhead.
- Finish wiring the lights
- Finish the wing brackets and mount
- Final fit of the exhaust
- Body Skirt edging
- Fit Mirrors
- Fit seatbelts
- Finish and fit the seats (including making passenger tilt and release mech)
- Remove, fettle and refit the dash
- Finish wiring the dash
Christmas has come and gone and I suppose I better don my garage scruffs and bugger on with the Pembleton.
I was pondering mirrors and bought a pair of motorbike ones that are CE marked. I could've just drilled a hole through the bodywork and mounted then that way but instead I've made up some cranked stalks from some brass rod and some little mounting blocks out of some aluminium bar stock.
Please ignore the M5 screws sticking out. They'll be replaced with grub screws. Fixed with 4xM6 from the inside.
I've also made up some proper bracketry out of 2mm aluminium for the silencers. To mount back to the bodywork.
I've also refitted the nosecone and started to do the rest of the extruded edging.
And a detail for my wife...
|https://thumbsnap.com/L6W9VoGd[/url](Which will be removed for MSVA)
Yes, I know it's not sitting flat, it's only placed on loosely.
I don't really have many big jobs to do now.
All little pissy jobs.
- Make a handbrake lever
- Connect the handbrake and make a little surround where the rod goes through the bulkhead.
- Finish wiring the lights
- Finish the wing brackets and mount
- Final fit of the exhaust
- Body Skirt edging
- Fit Mirrors
- Fit seatbelts
- Finish and fit the seats (including making passenger tilt and release mech)
- Remove, fettle and refit the dash
- Finish wiring the dash
Looking fantastic and can see where the time has gone. Don’t be too hard on yourself as it takes ages to do things correctly, a good example is your jig for the extrusion. That wouldn’t take only 5 minutes to make but has really made a huge difference to the quality.
Well done and keep at it.
Well done and keep at it.
Ambleton said:
I don't really have many big jobs to do now.
All little pissy jobs.
Done - Make a handbrake lever
Done - Connect the handbrake and make a little surround where the rod goes through the bulkhead.
Done - Sort gear knob
- Finish wiring the lights
- Finish the wing brackets and mount
- Final fit of the exhaust
- Body Skirt edging
- Fit Mirrors
- Fit seatbelts
- Finish and fit the seats (including making passenger tilt and release mech and seat pads)
- Make and fit arm pads
- Remove, fettle and refit the dash
- Finish wiring the dash
- Bonnet fixings
Next one that will be done is the dash out and fettle, followed by light wiring I think.All little pissy jobs.
Done - Make a handbrake lever
Done - Connect the handbrake and make a little surround where the rod goes through the bulkhead.
Done - Sort gear knob
- Finish wiring the lights
- Finish the wing brackets and mount
- Final fit of the exhaust
- Body Skirt edging
- Fit Mirrors
- Fit seatbelts
- Finish and fit the seats (including making passenger tilt and release mech and seat pads)
- Make and fit arm pads
- Remove, fettle and refit the dash
- Finish wiring the dash
- Bonnet fixings
Making my way through the list
(and adding more as I go
)If the weather isn't crap all weekend I might roll her out of the garage and take stock from 10-20 yards back.
Looks fantastic - another satisfying update.Thanks.
You'll notice the LHS has lower skirt edging, the RHS doesn't yet.
Also the exhausts aren't actually fitted yet, just loosely in place. Same with the bonnet. It's just placed on, need to figure out a way to secure it properly for the MSVA that won't leave holes when I change to the ford modelY catches I've cleaned up
It'll look better once all the little finishing details are in place properly and has mirrors and (post MSVA) some aero screens and rear rack fitted etc.
You'll notice the LHS has lower skirt edging, the RHS doesn't yet.
Also the exhausts aren't actually fitted yet, just loosely in place. Same with the bonnet. It's just placed on, need to figure out a way to secure it properly for the MSVA that won't leave holes when I change to the ford modelY catches I've cleaned up
It'll look better once all the little finishing details are in place properly and has mirrors and (post MSVA) some aero screens and rear rack fitted etc.
With the list of jobs getting smaller and smaller I thought id finish off my wing brackets as they were the only job with any real fabrication left... I think.
Cut, drilled and bent some brackets to match the wings.
Notched them out to sit on the stays better
Welded up, with a couple of coats of zinc primer and a couple of coats of black stippled coat.
Will get some photos fitted in some daylight next weekend.
Cut, drilled and bent some brackets to match the wings.
Notched them out to sit on the stays better
Welded up, with a couple of coats of zinc primer and a couple of coats of black stippled coat.
Will get some photos fitted in some daylight next weekend.
Other areas haven't been totally neglected either.
I finished the headlight wiring, removed, trimmed and refit the dash panel and added some keeper plates to the bonnet to lock it in place. You sort of angle it down and slide it back.
This keeps the bonnet tight to the scuttle and also means it can only go in one place.
I finished the headlight wiring, removed, trimmed and refit the dash panel and added some keeper plates to the bonnet to lock it in place. You sort of angle it down and slide it back.
This keeps the bonnet tight to the scuttle and also means it can only go in one place.
Good weekend.
Trimmed the mudguards down and beaded the edge as they were a bit long for my liking.
Fitted them to my painted cycle wing brackets.
Made up some little brackets for reflectors to go onto the back of the front wings and fitted them.
And trimmed the skirt the same on both sides and got the edging fitted. Bond is now going off whilst it's taped in position. I actually changed the shape of the rear skirt a fraction so it flows nicer.
I also bought some cheap as chips convex scooter mirrors from eBay for £13, I think Lexmoto? Who knows. Anyway, these are in ugly but nice smooth rounded plastic moulded housings which will pass the test. Will finish the seats before I decide on final locations but I have an idea.
Was so busy I forgot to take any photos...
So. What's left?
Bit of wiring to do.
Final fit of the zorsts
Finish the Seats
Mirrors
Test
Trimmed the mudguards down and beaded the edge as they were a bit long for my liking.
Fitted them to my painted cycle wing brackets.
Made up some little brackets for reflectors to go onto the back of the front wings and fitted them.
And trimmed the skirt the same on both sides and got the edging fitted. Bond is now going off whilst it's taped in position. I actually changed the shape of the rear skirt a fraction so it flows nicer.
I also bought some cheap as chips convex scooter mirrors from eBay for £13, I think Lexmoto? Who knows. Anyway, these are in ugly but nice smooth rounded plastic moulded housings which will pass the test. Will finish the seats before I decide on final locations but I have an idea.
Was so busy I forgot to take any photos...
So. What's left?
Bit of wiring to do.
Final fit of the zorsts
Finish the Seats
Mirrors
Test
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