Another Porsche Boxster engine failure..
Discussion
Vesuvius 996 said:
bcnrml said:
As for the economy, I gently but firmly affirm that you were wrong.......
Ah, a Nu Labia voter
Retail, housing, banking, all in the toilet, mate. But that's another thread.....
The IMF as an organisation backs the Labour party, does it?
So much for reviewing and understanding evidence.
Oh, and your post suggesting you'd accepted an offer of 17k on your car (if it is to be believed) suggests that you've taken a depreciation hit of 1k per month since your 25k valuation eight months ago. That's quite a depreciation curve for a car that's eight years old, and with an OPC warranty!
I bid you one of these
edited to make the point about depreciation on an eight year old 996, and to correct a typo
Edited by bcnrml on Tuesday 29th July 11:32
bcnrml said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
bcnrml said:
As for the economy, I gently but firmly affirm that you were wrong.......
Ah, a Nu Labia voterRetail, housing, banking, all in the toilet, mate. But that's another thread.....
The IMF as an organisation backs the Labour party, does it?
So much for reviewing and understanding evidence.
I bid you one of these
bcnrml said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
bcnrml said:
As for the economy, I gently but firmly affirm that you were wrong.......
Ah, a Nu Labia voterRetail, housing, banking, all in the toilet, mate. But that's another thread.....
The IMF as an organisation backs the Labour party, does it?
So much for reviewing and understanding evidence.
You like evidence: new Porsche registrations in the UK were down 51.24% last month.
bcnrml said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
bcnrml said:
As for the economy, I gently but firmly affirm that you were wrong.......
Ah, a Nu Labia voterRetail, housing, banking, all in the toilet, mate. But that's another thread.....
The IMF as an organisation backs the Labour party, does it?
So much for reviewing and understanding evidence.
Oh, and your post suggesting you'd accepted an offer of 17k on your car (if it is to be believed) suggests that you've taken a depreciation hit of 1k per month since your 25k valuation eight months ago. That's quite a depreciation curve for a car that's eight years old, and with an OPC warranty!
I bid you one of these
edited to make the point about depreciation on an eight year old 996, and to correct a typo
Edited by bcnrml on Tuesday 29th July 11:32
bcnrml didn't have a warranty when his 996 blew, everyone, so he's a bit touchy.
On depreciation, I paid £39k for my car 43 months ago, and just got £17k. So I've lost, ooooooooh £510 a month. I'd buy that for a dollar. I lost more on my brid's Ford Focus.
Mate, we're never going to agree on this, but to summarise.
1. 996 engines have some issues
2. You can either insure against a problem or not
3. If you don't and something happens, don't by a cry baby.
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 29th July 11:37
Vesuvius 996 said:
Oh dear.
bcnrml didn't have a warranty when his 996 blew, everyone, so he's a bit touchy.
Wrong. Again. bcnrml didn't have a warranty when his 996 blew, everyone, so he's a bit touchy.
For a lawyer, you're proving adept at making statements without any evidence whatsoever.
Keep digging......
Oh, and hello!
Vesuvius 996 said:
On depreciation, I paid £39k for my car 43 months ago, and just got £17k. So I've lost, ooooooooh £510 a month. I'd buy that for a dollar. I lost more on my brid's Ford Focus.
I think you've been advised by others, on the basis of your own posts, to be careful about maths and finance. Does the paid-for figure you quoted above include finance charges? IIRC, you said you'd financed the car..... If you did, then you may like to work out the full cost on that basis. Or do you prefer to live in denial as to the true cost of ownership? Reminds me of the many flat rate and APR discussions on here......Vesuvius 996 said:
Mate, we're never going to agree on this, but to summarise.
1. 996 engines have some issues
2. You can either insure against a problem or not
3. If you don't and something happens, don't by a cry baby.
Item 1: Yes, and some.1. 996 engines have some issues
2. You can either insure against a problem or not
3. If you don't and something happens, don't by a cry baby.
Item 2: We agree - I am risk averse too - the difference is that I don't act as hastily as you appear to (again, based on your own confession about the unseemly haste with which you signed the purchase and finance agreements on your car, and using the evidence of your posts in this thread).
Item 3: Agree, with the caveat that all parties accept their share of responsibility, and/or that the apologists for Porsche stop pretending there is no issue.
This time, I mean
to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).Vesuvius 996 said:
Look, I've always been risk averse where money is concerned.
Not wanting to be pedantic, but shorting the FTSE and being 'long in oil' would not (at least to me) seem to be risk-averse activities. I am happy though that you have made a fortune, and that you felt the need to tell us publicly - although I fail to see the relevancy to this thread. When/if you come here to boast further about your vehicular upgrade soon, I will try to make an effort to make a similarly relevant post - perhaps something concerning the substantial size of my male reproductive organ and so on.....it all adds to the amusement/irritation (delete as necessary) of Pistonheads....Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 29th July 11:11
Good luck with your car (and warranty) !
bcnrml said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Oh dear.
bcnrml didn't have a warranty when his 996 blew, everyone, so he's a bit touchy.
Wrong. Again. bcnrml didn't have a warranty when his 996 blew, everyone, so he's a bit touchy.
For a lawyer, you're proving adept at making statements without any evidence whatsoever.
Keep digging......
Oh, and hello!
Vesuvius 996 said:
On depreciation, I paid £39k for my car 43 months ago, and just got £17k. So I've lost, ooooooooh £510 a month. I'd buy that for a dollar. I lost more on my brid's Ford Focus.
I think you've been advised by others, on the basis of your own posts, to be careful about maths and finance. Does the paid-for figure you quoted above include finance charges? IIRC, you said you'd financed the car..... If you did, then you may like to work out the full cost on that basis. Or do you prefer to live in denial as to the true cost of ownership? Reminds me of the many flat rate and APR discussions on here......Vesuvius 996 said:
Mate, we're never going to agree on this, but to summarise.
1. 996 engines have some issues
2. You can either insure against a problem or not
3. If you don't and something happens, don't by a cry baby.
Item 1: Yes, and some.1. 996 engines have some issues
2. You can either insure against a problem or not
3. If you don't and something happens, don't by a cry baby.
Item 2: We agree - I am risk averse too - the difference is that I don't act as hastily as you appear to (again, based on your own confession about the unseemly haste with which you signed the purchase and finance agreements on your car, and using the evidence of your posts in this thread).
Item 3: Agree, with the caveat that all parties accept their share of responsibility, and/or that the apologists for Porsche stop pretending there is no issue.
This time, I mean
to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).You talk about depreciation, not total cost of ownership.
Ah well, enjoy Spain.....
bcnrml said:
This time, I mean to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).
How very selfish. to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).You seem like a well balanced person - a chip on both shoulders.
Deva Link said:
bcnrml said:
This time, I mean to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).
How very selfish. to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).You seem like a well balanced person - a chip on both shoulders.
(See...I do have power..........)
SIGH.....^^
Deva Link said:
bcnrml said:
This time, I mean to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).
How very selfish. to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).You seem like a well balanced person - a chip on both shoulders.
Presumably you come on to this forum to spout opinion and don't expect to learn from anyone else?
As for the evidence you posted earlier (sales down 51%), does that support some of my oft-repeated themes about the brand? Which other premium car brands are seeing such sharp declines? Is that good for us all? Has the legal challenge to the congestion charge led to a stampede for new Porker sales in London? Is the new engine for the latest 997 and 987 series likely to instill in us all confidence that some other issue will not surface later down the line, or should we take the M96 engine's foibles, and the response to them, as a one-off (lasting how long exactly - one year, ten years?)?
Who wants to be the guinea pig for the new 997 and 987 series, after the two year warranty runs out, eh? Are you volunteering? Wouldn't you benefit from healthy debate, supported by facts where possible, and sensible (fun) opinions? What would educate Porsche that we'll be supportive but won't be taken for granted either? Sensible, publicised debate or all-forgiving fawning that suggests they can do no wrong?
In advance of any response from you, I wish you a cordial
!christer said:
Deva Link said:
bcnrml said:
This time, I mean to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).
How very selfish. to you. I won't respond to any more of your posts and will only respond to those that constructively provide evidence to refute my arguments (because I can learn from those, thank you).You seem like a well balanced person - a chip on both shoulders.
(See...I do have power..........)
SIGH.....^^
I decided not to post anything new on this thread long ago because I realized I'm better than all of you...
...but I might be tempted to if anyone thinks of anything else funny to say about Boxsters going POP! or are we on the price of oil now, hang on, maybe BTL mortgages or wait, can we get Pit/Grid Babes into this thread somehow?
...but I might be tempted to if anyone thinks of anything else funny to say about Boxsters going POP! or are we on the price of oil now, hang on, maybe BTL mortgages or wait, can we get Pit/Grid Babes into this thread somehow?
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