Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035
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Erm are you a goldfish? This is just bizarre.
UK - RHD drive - 2035
EU - LHD drive - 2035
If the “target” date means anything at all to manufacturers you’d think there would be a different approach for both markets. As they didn’t and still don’t I’d say the UK change back to where we were - ie aligned with the EU - makes zero difference.
UK - RHD drive - 2035
EU - LHD drive - 2035
If the “target” date means anything at all to manufacturers you’d think there would be a different approach for both markets. As they didn’t and still don’t I’d say the UK change back to where we were - ie aligned with the EU - makes zero difference.
Edited by LivLL on Monday 9th October 19:45
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still don't get your point. manufacturers were and still are looking at 2030 if not before. rishi's announcement has made sod all difference to their plans despite the whooping and hollering from the ICEicles.
i'm off to my underwater bubble filled castle.
You only need to watch the Lejog item on "macmaster" and "geoffbuys cars" channels on youtube to see how useless EV's are on a journey like this.
Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.
At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.
Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.
At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.
nutsyH said:
You only need to watch the Lejog item on "macmaster" and "geoffbuys cars" channels on youtube to see how useless EV's are on a journey like this.
Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.
At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.
Speaks volumes, trouble is the "Sheep" still follow blindly.Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.
At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.
the national grid ……. 
so these to clickbait numpties put a deliberate mismatch use case together to get clicks. it's what they do.
if you want to go from LA to GoG without stopping, a tacan probably isn't your steed of choice.
plenty of people doing mega miles in long range teslas and the likes though.
so these to clickbait numpties put a deliberate mismatch use case together to get clicks. it's what they do.
if you want to go from LA to GoG without stopping, a tacan probably isn't your steed of choice.
plenty of people doing mega miles in long range teslas and the likes though.
Hello fellow enthusiasts,
In light of the ongoing debates about the future of petrol and diesel vehicles, I've been pondering a somewhat different angle that I feel warrants our attention. Before we even reach the stage of a full ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035, it seems there might be a more immediate challenge for us to navigate: taxes.
A recent development regarding the tax treatment of double cab pick-ups serves as a prime example. There's been a significant push to reclassify these vehicles from 'vans' to 'cars', which would dramatically change their tax implications. Thankfully, the industry has intervened, for now. However, this situation raises broader questions about the financial pressures that might be applied to petrol and diesel vehicle owners in the lead-up to the ban.
In light of the ongoing debates about the future of petrol and diesel vehicles, I've been pondering a somewhat different angle that I feel warrants our attention. Before we even reach the stage of a full ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035, it seems there might be a more immediate challenge for us to navigate: taxes.
A recent development regarding the tax treatment of double cab pick-ups serves as a prime example. There's been a significant push to reclassify these vehicles from 'vans' to 'cars', which would dramatically change their tax implications. Thankfully, the industry has intervened, for now. However, this situation raises broader questions about the financial pressures that might be applied to petrol and diesel vehicle owners in the lead-up to the ban.
Peter Bez
Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....
Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....
av185 said:
Wonder if Sunak will deem it ok to sell a third fourth or fifth hand used car after 2035 
The tax will increase on a sliding scale depending on how many previous owners it's had, & will apply to the third owner onwards.No exemption will be made for classics... Who will be hit hard with an additional taxation as well.
NB: What difference does five minutes make...
Edited by Milkyway on Sunday 3rd March 09:04
Bad Bernie said:
Peter Bez
Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....
Is Net Zero a massive election winner, I don't know anyone who really seems to care about it, all people seen to care about is the money in their pockets. Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....
LivLL said:
People will still buy EV's, they're buying them in large numbers now over a decade away from the target date. Incentives are still there for company drivers to choose EV or petrol or diesel, that hasn't changed.
As I said, not really a big piece of news. What else was hiding behind this "big" announcement in plain sight?
Yeh and maybe sad-iq kahn would consider giving up his 7 litre guzzling rover for an EV, might be good for environment...?As I said, not really a big piece of news. What else was hiding behind this "big" announcement in plain sight?
I am another one who does not believe that electric vehicles will be the final mode of personal transport. In fact, I doubt it will last more than another decade or so. The same environmental activists that have made i.c.e. powered cars disappear will sooner rather than later rail against spent electric battery packs filling landfills and leaching dangerous chemicals into the ground and water supplies. They'll lead the charge away from battery technology just as quickly as they ushered it in. My guess is that hyrogen powered i.c.e. engines will be the wave of the future especially as engines like theToyota/Yamaha design has had favorable reviews from what I've read. Some wise young entrepreneur will do what Elon Musk did for electrics and set up their own infrastructure of nitrogen dispensing stations to make fuel delivery more convenient.
I believe we'll see such engines available in a variety of cars in the very near future, especially in light of the huge slowdown in EV sales.
I believe we'll see such engines available in a variety of cars in the very near future, especially in light of the huge slowdown in EV sales.
tberg said:
I am another one who does not believe that electric vehicles will be the final mode of personal transport. In fact, I doubt it will last more than another decade or so. The same environmental activists that have made i.c.e. powered cars disappear will sooner rather than later rail against spent electric battery packs filling landfills and leaching dangerous chemicals into the ground and water supplies. They'll lead the charge away from battery technology just as quickly as they ushered it in. My guess is that hyrogen powered i.c.e. engines will be the wave of the future especially as engines like theToyota/Yamaha design has had favorable reviews from what I've read. Some wise young entrepreneur will do what Elon Musk did for electrics and set up their own infrastructure of nitrogen dispensing stations to make fuel delivery more convenient.
I believe we'll see such engines available in a variety of cars in the very near future, especially in light of the huge slowdown in EV sales.
I'd invest everything i had in this future if i were you.I believe we'll see such engines available in a variety of cars in the very near future, especially in light of the huge slowdown in EV sales.
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