Pirelli Corsa's in the wet - V12V
Pirelli Corsa's in the wet - V12V
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stimshady

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1,323 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Having only had the V12V for just over a week, i havent really done much driving in the wet (fortunately), but have been reading quite a bit about the Corsa's not being so good in the wet - are they completely unusable, or is it just a case of being a little bit sensible and going a bit steady..?

AdamV12V

5,313 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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They are not too bad in the wet providing it is warm. They are however terrible in both the wet and dry when it is cold - I think the officialy quoted temp is 9C.

yeti

10,609 posts

301 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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They don't have a particularly deep tread pattern to clear water but the 'problem' seems to be more related to cold weather when they struggle to get any temperature and therefore grip.

They're fine in the wet, just go steady as you would be in a torquey six litre V12, until you're used to them smile

More than one owner has switched to regular P-Zeros though (as per DBS) due to them being superior for grip in all situations but the warmest driest roads. They lose out a fair bit to the more focussed dry weather tyre, but my use sees me in the car in all weathers and temperatures so I'm happier with an all-round compromise tyre.

hornbaek

3,814 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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As Adam is saying. It is the temperature that is the deciding factor. Allow the tyres to warm up before you press the sports button.

stimshady

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1,323 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Great, thanks guys, so in theory it shouldn't just go launching itself off the road in the damp!

Will certainly spend a few minutes warming them up though thumbup

Little Donkey

1,544 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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AdamV12V said:
They are not too bad in the wet providing it is warm. They are however terrible in both the wet and dry when it is cold - I think the officialy quoted temp is 9C.
I think it's 6c. Regardless of tyre type, with other 500BHP on tap, it would be sensible to ease off a tad when it's wet and/or cold IMO.

Cockernee

3,059 posts

186 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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stimshady said:
Great, thanks guys, so in theory it shouldn't just go launching itself off the road in the damp!

Will certainly spend a few minutes warming them up though thumbup
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Traction control to Track mode helps with temperature yes

Don't use the sport button in the wet unless you have good reactions wink Certainly don't use Corsa's in the wet if your name is Tony and you have won almost £200million on the Euromillions yes or if your windscreen has misted up, you have a stone chip on the bonnet or indeed you vinette is placed in the top left corner instead of the bottom left on the windscreen. In all other circumstances foot flat to the floor nono

As others, cold is your enemy unless you get temperature into them, which Lottery Tony thinks is difficult in sub-zero conditions apparantly biggrin

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

178 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Cockernee said:
Certainly don't use Corsa's in the wet if your name is Tony and you have won almost £200million on the Euromillions yes or if your windscreen has misted up, you have a stone chip on the bonnet or indeed you vinette is placed in the top left corner instead of the bottom left on the windscreen. In all other circumstances foot flat to the floor nono

As others, cold is your enemy unless you get temperature into them, which Lottery Tony thinks is difficult in sub-zero conditions apparantly biggrin


I thought top left was where vignette had to go confused anyway....I will just buy a new car when I need a new vignette...good job I don't smoke or the ashtray would be full by now biggrin

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

178 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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and if by magic....


stimshady

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

213 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Cockernee said:
Traction control to Track mode helps with temperature yes
Ha! Will try this! biggrin

v12woollie

4,363 posts

171 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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stimshady said:
Cockernee said:
Traction control to Track mode helps with temperature yes
Ha! Will try this! biggrin
I look forward to hearing how that goes smile

Cockernee

3,059 posts

186 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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v12woollie said:
stimshady said:
Cockernee said:
Traction control to Track mode helps with temperature yes
Ha! Will try this! biggrin
I look forward to hearing how that goes smile
I did start the post with a warning..

yeti

10,609 posts

301 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Non-Corsa people; how are you finding the normal P-Zeros?

Still debating the switch to Pilot SuperSports next time round scratchchin

sukh_m

1,325 posts

218 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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yeti said:
Non-Corsa people; how are you finding the normal P-Zeros?

Still debating the switch to Pilot SuperSports next time round scratchchin
I've got Bridgestone Potenza's, what's the general consensus of them?

Going to change all 4's shortly, also wondering whether to switch.

woolders

874 posts

183 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Likewise, or what is left after Cockers set fire to them in Germany. Given that his only comment was that one of the wheels was slightly out of balance and we are both still alive, they most be OK at worst.

Never had a problem with them but obviously, I am very old.

Cockernee

3,059 posts

186 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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woolders said:
Likewise, or what is left after Cockers set fire to them in Germany. Given that his only comment was that one of the wheels was slightly out of balance and we are both still alive, they most be OK at worst.

Never had a problem with them but obviously, I am very old.
That was the brakes on fire rolleyesThe tyres were fine, hot though biggrin

v12woollie

4,363 posts

171 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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sukh_m said:
I've got Bridgestone Potenza's, what's the general consensus of them?

Going to change all 4's shortly, also wondering whether to switch.
After the run in Germany I think the Potenzas are fantastic. Never let me down smile

MollyGTi

2,373 posts

180 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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v12woollie said:
sukh_m said:
I've got Bridgestone Potenza's, what's the general consensus of them?

Going to change all 4's shortly, also wondering whether to switch.
After the run in Germany I think the Potenzas are fantastic. Never let me down smile
..... in your V8 Woollie! But have you not heard about the scary reputation of those big scary V12s!!! In the wet ??? Ask TonyV12V MTFU ...!

v12woollie

4,363 posts

171 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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MollyGTi said:
..... in your V8 Woollie! But have you not heard about the scary reputation of those big scary V12s!!! In the wet ??? Ask TonyV12V MTFU ...!
Good point. I may have to MTFU too! Might just swap to the straight P Zeros and wimp out smile

AdamV12V

5,313 posts

203 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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v12woollie said:
Might just swap to the straight P Zeros and wimp out smile
Don't!!!

As poor as the Corsa's are in the cold, its easy to stay safe even in snow as long as you drive with your brain switched on.

They are however, EPIC in the dry in summer! I have never driven a car with tyres that actually "churp" in hard cornering on a twisty lane on hot summers day. Worth every penny for that alone, even if we have far more downside days in the UK, than upside.