Am I liable for a stone chip on another person's screen?
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Yeah this was nothing like that.
You can see by this link, the road has massive visibility:
(It looks uphill in the image, it's actually downhill).
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=bargoed&hl=en...
It's a prime overtaking point.
You can see by this link, the road has massive visibility:
(It looks uphill in the image, it's actually downhill).
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=bargoed&hl=en...
It's a prime overtaking point.
Lunablack said:
Motorrad said:
I prefer not to communicate with people in these circumstances. I'd simply drive away without comment.
This is the correct approach. These people are idiots, engaging with them validates their existence.... Best to ignoreI wonder how it stands when say the council have laid chippings, and there's a 10mph limit.....then some idiot overtakes, or is travelling in the opposite direction at 40 or 50, and chips your screen, or damages the paintwork:???
I had an 'incident' a while back when a van overtook me on a slip road after diving straight accross the dividing 'hatched' section - cue stone flying up (as cars aren't actually supposed to drive on that stripy painted bit funnily enough)
It was a windscreen van.
I wrote the story on here and the company director was a PHer.
He was apologetic and said that they would repair my windscreen with some gel stuff. I said no, I want a new windscreen. Your driver dis-obeyed the law and I've ended up with a f*cked windscreen, I'm supposed to be grateful that you want to cover this damage up free of charge?
Pretty sure I could've been a right tw*t and reported for dangerous driving, especially after we got an admission from the driver that it had happened.
In the end it all got a bit shirty but ultimately I was left with a f*cked windscreen. I flogged the car ultimately and now just advise anyone to avoid the windscreen company in question.
It was a windscreen van.
I wrote the story on here and the company director was a PHer.
He was apologetic and said that they would repair my windscreen with some gel stuff. I said no, I want a new windscreen. Your driver dis-obeyed the law and I've ended up with a f*cked windscreen, I'm supposed to be grateful that you want to cover this damage up free of charge?
Pretty sure I could've been a right tw*t and reported for dangerous driving, especially after we got an admission from the driver that it had happened.
In the end it all got a bit shirty but ultimately I was left with a f*cked windscreen. I flogged the car ultimately and now just advise anyone to avoid the windscreen company in question.
oyster said:
Whether or not it's illegal, it's the height of rudeness to damage other peoples' cars by driving too fast on recently laid chippings. Really annoys me that one.
Apart from that it can be dangerous.I once (many years ago) crossed from good road, to recent laid chippings at higher speed than I should. The difference in stability of the car made me realise that high speed and loose surface aint good unless you are a rally driver.
This is an interesting one especially for me.
A while back a friend was following me on a hoon, on a country road I flicked a stone and chipped his windsreen (no overtaking or anything involved, just literally driving) his windscreen cracked about a month after and he had it replaced to the tune of over £1000.
A few friends said I should pay I had no idea why and told them to bks. I said if I had been drifing around a stony car park and hit his windscreen I would pay, but driving down a normal road I wouldn't.
Using this logic, I could drive behind somebody with a go pro cam on, wait until I hear a dink they claim a bonnet respray for them stone chipping it...
Was I in the right?
A while back a friend was following me on a hoon, on a country road I flicked a stone and chipped his windsreen (no overtaking or anything involved, just literally driving) his windscreen cracked about a month after and he had it replaced to the tune of over £1000.
A few friends said I should pay I had no idea why and told them to bks. I said if I had been drifing around a stony car park and hit his windscreen I would pay, but driving down a normal road I wouldn't.
Using this logic, I could drive behind somebody with a go pro cam on, wait until I hear a dink they claim a bonnet respray for them stone chipping it...
Was I in the right?
framerateuk said:
More to the point, why does you friend not have windscreen cover?
It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
You'd have to ask him It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
Edit: Just logged onto facebook, he has another cracked screen due to another stone chip poor guy. Just mentioned windscreen cover to him.
Edited by StottyZr on Tuesday 9th October 23:12
KingNothing said:
hman said:
Even if a lorry tyre disintegrates and you get hit by a large lump of flying rubber writing off your car you will have no chance in making the lorry operator pay for your damage (So long as it cannot be proved that its disintegration was through negligent actions).
So a stone flicking off your tyre - nah, that's just st luck.
I personally would have thought that is a totally different situation and one where you would be able to claim from the trucks insurance, regardless of negligeance or not.So a stone flicking off your tyre - nah, that's just st luck.
Simond S said:
KingNothing said:
hman said:
Even if a lorry tyre disintegrates and you get hit by a large lump of flying rubber writing off your car you will have no chance in making the lorry operator pay for your damage (So long as it cannot be proved that its disintegration was through negligent actions).
So a stone flicking off your tyre - nah, that's just st luck.
I personally would have thought that is a totally different situation and one where you would be able to claim from the trucks insurance, regardless of negligeance or not.So a stone flicking off your tyre - nah, that's just st luck.
The vehicle operator can usually avoid liability by providing the latest maintenance record for the vehicle showing that the tyre had been inspected and showed no defects or damage.
In your case I would hazard a guess that either the vehicle operator could not provide a recent maintenance record or that the record showed that the tyre was damaged/defective/below legal limit - either of which could have been used to show negligence by the vehicle operator. Hence, the claim was paid.
StottyZr said:
framerateuk said:
More to the point, why does you friend not have windscreen cover?
It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
You'd have to ask him It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
Edit: Just logged onto facebook, he has another cracked screen due to another stone chip poor guy. Just mentioned windscreen cover to him.
Edited by StottyZr on Tuesday 9th October 23:12
over_the_hill said:
StottyZr said:
framerateuk said:
More to the point, why does you friend not have windscreen cover?
It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
You'd have to ask him It costs £75 at most to have a windscreen fixed, and a lot of insurers do it cheaper. Sadly I've had to pay out 4 times for windows being smashed on my old car thanks to vandals. £75 each time!
Edit: Just logged onto facebook, he has another cracked screen due to another stone chip poor guy. Just mentioned windscreen cover to him.
Edited by StottyZr on Tuesday 9th October 23:12
He doesn't have windscreen cover
KarlMac said:
One of my brand new, sub 500 mile dunlops got a massive screw in it, there some builders working next door. Can I sue them?
If, on the balance of probabilities, they caused the screw to be in the road, then yes. Suing people is a last resort of course, try asking them nicely first.
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