JFReturn's VX220 2.2 NA

JFReturn's VX220 2.2 NA

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JFReturns

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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How is your VX Andy? On the mend I hope.

I've got nothing done on my car (other than driving) mainly due to this fella:



I'm going to be putting quite a few miles on the VX over the coming months (assuming I can keep her) as I need to come back home every lunchtime to feed the dog. I really need to sort the knock out soon as it is driving me mad! This Saturday... this Saturday... mutter mutter...

JFReturns

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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Andy_sx said:
Had the quote from the body shop (rediculous, but they are the ones I was told to go too) just waiting for it to be confirmed etc now.

Stop mumbling and pull your finger out! I'm about Saturday, can provide some extra tools aswell, get it investigated as im sure you will want to sort it either way.

I did see Yoda in the pets section, he looks like a happy lil dog!
Keep an eye on your PM's Sat, you might get one from me biggrin

TVR MAN said:
Have you worked out what the knock is?

I've diagnosed mine as the toe links so I ordered replacements from autovaux today. Planning to attempt to change them myself which will be interesting nuts
I thought yours was the airbox? Or was that just masking another clonk hehe

I've read up on .org and I think it could very well be toe links. Have you come across any guides on how to change them? How hard could it be.... (famous last words)...

JFReturns

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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pincher said:
I used Plans and BackOnTrack when I had my VX and would recommend both but preferred the chaps at BoT - so much so, that I let them use my car as a bit of free advertising biggrin


Blimey, I thought my VX was low! Looking good, any threads / details on your VX?

JFReturns

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Saturday 14th April 2012
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Right, I've made some progress. Not much, but some. First off, I managed to jack the car and take the wheels and arch liner off successfully (whoop, go me, +10 man points).

The first thing I saw was the airbox looking dodgy. It seems like there is a rubber bung that is tightened against the airbox to keep it rigid. This has loosened and the airbox dropped from it's mounting. I think I need another bung bit as the tightening nut is corroded. This is how I have left it for the time being:



This isn't the cause of the rattle though. This is:



It is a large pipe / hose coming from the engine bay down in front of the rear wheel and through the sill onto towards the front of the car. I'm presuming it feeds to the radiator but that is a guess. It has come loose and basically knocks against the sill at the smallest of bumps. Here is another pic (highlighted the hose) heading towards the front of the VX.



I've managed to get a couple of cables ties in but access is a b@stard. It is slightly improved, but now there are a whole load more clonks and squeeks furious

I really have no idea how to secure this.

JFReturns

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Sunday 15th April 2012
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Well I found the cause of the new clonk:



That's right, I left my torch in the car. My mechanical idiocy knows no bounds. Quite impressed my torch was still running after 14 hours though - I recommend these Lensers, good bit of kit. You can also see from the pic where I managed to get a couple of cable ties on there.

So - can anyone confirm if that is the coolant hose? If so, will it remain cool enough to tape a sponge or something round it to stop it clonking?

Alternatively if someone could point out how it is meant to be secured I would appreciate it.

JFReturns

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Monday 16th April 2012
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Andy_sx said:
What side does the hose run down Rob? Is it the passenger side?

Ill try and see how mine is and get a picture for you mate.
Cheers - it is rear passenger side. You only need to remove the left side of the arch liner, then you can look through to see the hose and other bits and pieces (I've got a feeling they are heating and coolant pipes, I'm not sure what the hose is that is knocking).

JFReturns

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Monday 16th April 2012
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And I thought I was doing so well curse

JFReturns

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Cheers. I'll have another look saturday, maybe taking off the sill covers or sills (?) for better access.

JFReturns

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Thursday 19th April 2012
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She might clonk, but having just driven through a monsoon, I can confirm Vicky VX doesn't leak! biggrin


JFReturns

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Monday 23rd April 2012
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Another weekend working on OA-S, another weekend of getting blindingly frustrated. The clonk ain't the rad hose as it is secured tighter than a snare drum.

I had some great suggestions from VX220.org.uk - there is a YouTube clip demonstrating the clonk it that thread. I've brought some ramps so I can get under the VX safely and remove the undertray and take a closer look.

Also been in touch with Back On Track as I'm planning a trip over there to give the VX a good service and check over so if I haven't figured it out I'll leave it to the experts.

JFReturns

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Monday 30th April 2012
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Small update of sorts - I've given up on the clonk and booked it into Plans Motorsport to fix. I'll probably get them to do a full service too as it's a fair trek for me.

Some positives though - I've learned how to jack the car up properly from the back (the rear undertray needs removing) which enabled me to take the rear wheels off to get re-valved. Good job as all four wheels were 10 PSI down! The VX drives so much better with correctly inflated tyres.... Also got a few niggly jobs done like resticking the velcro strips in the boot and tidying the light switch panel. I've even ordered a few more buttons from a Vectra to replace my old ones.

Also gave it a good clean and fresh coat of wax, heres some pics to stop this post being dull biggrin




JFReturns

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Monday 30th April 2012
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Heh, yeah the TV is knackered but still plays DVDs and CDs so I chucked it up in the garage instead of throwing out. Keeps me entertained biggrin

Anyway, jacking points. I found this image which helps:



If you want to jack the rear you need to use points D. To get to these you need to remove the rearmost undertray (easy enough; about 10 small bolts, two big ones and two side plugs). To help with safe access to these I brought two wide, low entry point ramps:



Once the undertray was off I took it off the ramps. The 'D' jacking points were a little tight - I could get my jack under but no piece of wood (I've not got a low entry jack) so I used a little scissor jack in the normal 'A' jacking position to raise it an inch or so. You can use an axel stand on the other 'D' jacking point if you like.

I think that covers everything I did, but fire any more questions away. Don't forget to get the locking nut key out before jacking hehe

That is a huge list of work to do, best of luck! Let us know how you get on.

EDIT: Jacking point image not working, uploaded instead.

Edited by JFReturns on Tuesday 1st May 09:47

JFReturns

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Friday 4th May 2012
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Update - cause of the clonks: GAZ Gold suspension. Are they shagged? Nope, just not very good! Bugger. To be honest, I've been thinking about returning the suspension to standard as the ride is just too hard for me and my creaking neck (handles fantastically though!).

I was impressed with Plans Motorsport*. As the dealer I brought the VX from 'serviced' it I got Plans to do a full 4th/8th year service done including sparks, oil (fully synthetic Mobil 1 Motorsport 10w/60), clutch and brakes bleed. There were a few other jobs like replace nearside front ball joint, stripping and cleaning a caliper and replacing the reverse light switch.

Total cost: £445.72. All done whilst I waited. I'll be going back there shortly to sort the suspension and fit an induction kit. Oh and to get them to stamp my service book as I forgot it getmecoat

There were some seriously nice motors on show round the complex, including a PH'ers stage 4 VX Turbo (hi if you're reading this!). It was cool seeing the Top Gear track etc, I could have had a lap or two but McClaren had booked the track out. I saw a couple of MP4-12Cs driving around, they really do look and sound amazing in the metal. One day cloud9

* Note there was a large clonking sound as I drove from the garage. I opened the engine bay to find the mechanic had left his torch in there! See, even the professionals do it biggrin


Edited by JFReturns on Friday 4th May 20:07

JFReturns

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Monday 7th May 2012
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Are the door cards easy to get off? I need to check the windows as they are rattling when open.

Access to the exhaust heat shield is quite easy, you need to take off the rear most undertray then get under the car look around. Ramps would make it easier and safer wink

JFReturns

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Saturday 12th May 2012
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drgoatboy said:
If you are going to go back to standard shocks bilstein will refurbish shocks for you. Can't remember the exact amount but I had 4 done for about the same price as a new set of Gaz shocks. Mine were pretty much knackered after 60k miles and the difference before and after refurb was astounishing. not exactly a pillow soft ride though...

I did post on .org about it at the time (which was some years ago to be fair) but for some reason I can't logon there anymore...
Cheers for the info. I've done a bit of digging and GAZ will refurb my coilovers for free as they are less than two years old. Luckily they are quite near to me in Essex, so I'm going to drive over there on Tuesday instead of removing and posting them. They have garage facilities and have worked on a VX220 before, but I'll show them the jacking points anyway teacher

JFReturns

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Saturday 12th May 2012
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I AM A MAN AND I FIX THINGS *beats chest like a big silverback gorilla.*

Alright so it was only a couple of buttons, but I'm still pleased with myself. Here is the light switch panel before:



As you can see, the sidelight button bulb was dead and the hazard button broken. I did a bit of research and the Vectra has similar buttons. The front panel of the hazard switch was an easy replacement, whilst the Vectra's air conditioning unit has the same connector pattern as the VX220 sidelight. I just needed to pop off the front cover and switch them around.



I also tried connecting the bonnet switch back on as it is loose, but it seems the mounting is completely broken. It is welded on, so no idea how to replace this.

Oh and access was a nightmare. Guess how I got round the problem - mirrors, small video feed? Nope, you are wrong. I indulged in a little VX gymnastics biggrin



I've done my neck doing in it though!

JFReturns

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Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Well, this is one of the best updates I'm likely to make.....

Firstly, apologies if you have read this on .org already, I do try and avoid cross forum posting. The clonk has finally been fixed, here is how (settle down and get a nice cup of tea).

So, when the VX was at Plans for the service, they diagnosed my GAZ Golds as the cause of the clonk. I was under the impression they were less than two years old (I was wrong, more on this in a bit) and did a bit of research. Turns out that GAZ offer a two year warranty on their shocks and offer a rebuild service. As they were quite close to me I booked an appointment for them to take a look and discuss my options. I also got in touch with the dealer I purchased the car from as it was still within warranty, but they weren't really interested as dampers are not covered under the warranty terms. I argued a little, and they were prepared to help out with my costs as a good will gesture.

This morning my alarm goes off at 6, I'm up and out the house by 7. I have a decent enough journey over the Dartford crossing onto my destination in Essex, and get to GAZ by 8. I was expecting to have to wait around for them to open but I'm immediately greeted by a chap called Warren who jumps (or should I say falls, ungracefully biggrin ) into the passenger seat for a run round the block to listen to the clonk.

Once back we get the VX onto their ramp where one of the dampers was whipped off. Straight away Warren realised they were not GAZ Golds, but Nickels, and the manufacture date was 2008 so they were four years old! I felt really bad for misinforming him on the phone, but I did believe they were Golds and less than two years old. Despite this, and despite any warranty being non-transferable, Warren replaced all four of my dampers for brand spanking new MK2 GAZ Gold Pros completely free of charge.... eek

With all the lows my fiancee have being going through with redundancies etc this was absolutely great, great news. To say I am happy is understatement of the year.

So, onto the dampers - the difference is like night and day. Firstly, the clonk has gone (bliss!), and the ride and handling is sublime. The Gold Pros fitted were a MK2 design so you can't buy them yet, but they feel great. Whereas before I avoided any road imperfections, now I have no worry as they are silently dampened with no intrusive crashing within the cabin. The ride is firm but very supple, and I now understand what Barker, Meaden, Catchpole et al mean when they describe a car's ride / handling compromise as 'nuggety'.

There is no roll within corners, really none, and the VX feels taut and dialed into the road. The twitchiness I experienced has gone and I feel much more comfortable with the feedback I am receiving.

I need to take the VX back in a couple of weeks for some adjustments once they settle and I'll keep all you readers up to date with my experiences.

A couple of pics, before and after and fitted:






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JFReturns

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Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I know! Very happy with that as I have one of only two sets in the world!

Note that this was very much a one off, GAZ do no usually replace four year old shocks with brand new ones free of charge, but they do offer a rebuild service which is a reasonable price IMO. And very cool, they use a stethoscope to diagnose the parts required without even disassembling the shock.

JFReturns

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Monday 4th June 2012
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How much did that little lot cost at your specialist TVR MAN?

Another pic of the Gaz Gold Pros MK2, I'm well impressed with them thus far:



And also a quick update on OA-S; I'm pretty sure I could hear crunching, rustling noises over bumps and it turns out I've got half of Whitstable beach nestled in the body work!



Same the other side!



All removed now. Tomorrow will be spent cleaning and sealing the TD's and having a look at the ABS sensors as the warning light occasionally comes on.

JFReturns

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Tuesday 5th June 2012
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That is seriously good! Shame it would be a 400 mile drive for me hehe I'll mention the ABS cut off switch when I go back to Plans.

Its been a productive couple of days as I've finally managed to remove, clean and seal all four TDs. They look fantastic and should prove much easier to clean from now on.

Also took a quick trip to my local bodyshop who has quoted me £425 to repair and respray the entire front end (loads of stone chips) and paint the windscreen surround matte black. Repairing all the bubbles round the entire car would be around £800. I'm really happy with that, so I'll book it in to get the front and windscreen surround done and see how it goes.

As usual, a couple of pics to stop the post being too boring: