Incredibly cool photos of trains

Incredibly cool photos of trains

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Rumblestripe

2,982 posts

163 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Yertis said:
Am I right to guess that we now build more steam locomotives in this backwards-evolving country than we do diesel or electric locomotives? (I include multiple-units in that)

Please tell me I'm wrong.
Hitachi, Newton Aycliffe makes/assembles trains/multiple units for British railways. I'm not sure how much is manufacturing and how much as assembling, or indeed where you draw the line between the two?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Newton_Aycli...

pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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I don't know what it will be like, but "Driving the Train 1959" will be on Talking Pictures at 1335 today.

Rich1973

1,201 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Units are still being made in Derby as well I believe.

pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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pingu393 said:
I don't know what it will be like, but "Driving the Train 1959" will be on Talking Pictures at 1335 today.
It's an instructional film, and is worth a watch if you would like to know some of the things involved in driving a train.

Rich1973

1,201 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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125 group tour to St Pancras today.

CooperD

2,878 posts

178 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Error_404_Username_not_found

2,259 posts

52 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Maxym said:


Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (once known as Victoria Terminus).
Ooh, that takes me back.
It's still widely called Victoria Terminus. I used to walk past most mornings on my way to work and often bought the Times of India from the charming disabled lady who had a pavement pitch outside the station.
I only had that job for 9 months but grew to love India with all my heart.
Rail travel there is... an experience. I took the sleeper train to Hyderabad once.
Just once.

miniman

25,040 posts

263 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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CooperD said:
Llangollen railway?

CooperD

2,878 posts

178 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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miniman said:
Llangollen railway?
No the North Norfolk Railway. This is Weybourne station where you can change trains. They usually run a DMU and a steam train most days.



miniman

25,040 posts

263 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Ah, on further inspection my memory had let me down! Here’s Llangollen.


Wacky Racer

38,234 posts

248 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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The last steam train to be made by British Railways 9f Class "Evening Star" came out of Swindon works in 1960. It was withdrawn from service in 1965. It cost £33,500 to build.

Error_404_Username_not_found

2,259 posts

52 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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That was money in those days wink

RichB

51,693 posts

285 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Error_404_Username_not_found said:
That was money in those days wink
I only looked at one website but the answer given was "£33,500 in 1960 is worth £951,423.91 today" and that seems cheap to me... Especially as elsewhere I read that "a diesel-electric locomotive can cost between $1.5 and $5 million..." scratchchin

velocemitch

3,818 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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RichB said:
Error_404_Username_not_found said:
That was money in those days wink
I only looked at one website but the answer given was "£33,500 in 1960 is worth £951,423.91 today" and that seems cheap to me... Especially as elsewhere I read that "a diesel-electric locomotive can cost between $1.5 and $5 million..." scratchchin
Steam locos were much much cheaper to build than Diesels back then.
Interestingly I think Tornado cost about £3.000.000, which compares quite well against a modern diesel even now.

Yertis

18,084 posts

267 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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But if you were geared up to build a couple of hundred A1s or 9Fs the unit cost would plummet.

velocemitch

3,818 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Yertis said:
But if you were geared up to build a couple of hundred A1s or 9Fs the unit cost would plummet.
Oh yes certainly hence why the 9F was cheaper than say an EE Type 4 in 1960. It’s a much simpler machine.

Mercdriver

2,055 posts

34 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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It might be simpler but it is very much better to look at

The epitome of British steam engines

Flying Phil

1,597 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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I saw Evening Star twice in BR days. The first time was in a South wales shed (East Dock) with a bent front buffer beam

The second time Easter 1967, when it was the last steam locomotive to go through the Crewe paintshop - getting its exhibition finish paint job.

PhyllisOphical

755 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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velocemitch said:
RichB said:
Error_404_Username_not_found said:
That was money in those days wink
I only looked at one website but the answer given was "£33,500 in 1960 is worth £951,423.91 today" and that seems cheap to me... Especially as elsewhere I read that "a diesel-electric locomotive can cost between $1.5 and $5 million..." scratchchin
Steam locos were much much cheaper to build than Diesels back then.
Interestingly I think Tornado cost about £3.000.000, which compares quite well against a modern diesel even now.
2007 will have cost around £6 000 000 by the time she is finished. Slightly bigger and more challenging engineering, but most of the difference is inflation.

pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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PhyllisOphical said:
velocemitch said:
RichB said:
Error_404_Username_not_found said:
That was money in those days wink
I only looked at one website but the answer given was "£33,500 in 1960 is worth £951,423.91 today" and that seems cheap to me... Especially as elsewhere I read that "a diesel-electric locomotive can cost between $1.5 and $5 million..." scratchchin
Steam locos were much much cheaper to build than Diesels back then.
Interestingly I think Tornado cost about £3.000.000, which compares quite well against a modern diesel even now.
2007 will have cost around £6 000 000 by the time she is finished. Slightly bigger and more challenging engineering, but most of the difference is inflation.
Are some of the standards now higher, and hence more expensive?