A320 down in Pakistan

I've seen a recent comment that there's a story that the Capt of this PIA flight hadn't done a sim session since 2010........which if true would be yet another black flag against PIA ops.

This was on the cards....it was just a matter of when, and for how long. I'm surprised its only 6 months though, was expecting it to be 12 months.

Possibly, although direct route Kararchi to NY would be over the Caspian Sea, Russia, Estonia, out over the Baltic and across Sweden and Norway and then south of Iceland.

To go across Middle East, North Africa and then out over the Atlantic would add a couple of thousand km's to the distance.

Accident Report

Scary stuff
"At 09:33:48, aircraft was passing below 750 ft RA, 1.5 NM from R/W 25L
threshold ... ECAM Red Warning “L/G GEAR NOT DOWN” and illumination of Red Arrow beside the Landing Gears Lever were triggered .. At 09:33:51, Captain was heard saying “Cancel it” "

Sad, but maybe indicative of a work culture where trying to recover an unstable approach in increasingly dire circumstances is preferable to just throwing away the approach and starting again. Perhaps 98 people and a hull loss will change that..

When a pilot replying to ATC ends the call with "God willing" that's the time to revoke their clearance to land give them a new course to another airport for them to deal with.

Apologies for referring to Juan as Warren, I posted this at my desk first thing this morning. I didn’t have my reading glasses, and I don’t get a good signal at work so it was rather rushed.

I really enjoy Juan’s channel, I’ve learned so much from watching his videos - along with Mentour of course.

There is just so many things going wrong in this whole disaster.

Totally agree about the “God Willing” part. I mean really incredible communication in such a situation.

What shocks me about the whole thing is that the Captain and FO were on that flight deck in the first place. Mind, some of the background on both (Cap / FO) sheds a good bit of light on that!

Watching Juan’s video along with the evidence from the report, left me feeling they couldn’t have done a worse job if they had tried.

I mean, some pilots have been caught out by slowly slipping into “Getthereitus” in other accidents.

But this crew took it to a whole other level.

Mentour Pilot on YT did a fantastic video covering this crash yesterday -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOKYR5ZJbQ

and yet again showing that hubris kills people. The (in 20/20 hindsight) chilling sentence from the Standards Pilot (who had a long history of dog-poop approaches) of "He will be surprised [by] what we have done" when referring to ATC, who was telling them to orbit rather than continue the busted straight in approach, just shows how terrible PIA was as an airline, with about 40% of its pilots afterwards found to have "fake" pilots licenses leading to a European/US ban on the airline entering their airspace!

Well, it is PIA, although even by their historically low standards, this was quite special.

When I first worked at Heathrow in the early 80's everyone said, what ever you do, never, ever fly on PIA.

I was thinking about this today. The engines on that aircraft were never ever designed to be dragged along a runway for any length of time.

I’m sure they are probably like ‘Swiss Clocks’:
intricate pieces of engineering.

It’s amazing it ever got off the deck again.

Just goes to show how ridiculously overspeed they were that they could drag it along the runway for that length of time and still have enough left to get airborne again