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Every time I see it I think of the accident about 25 years ago when it - or another one - rolled inverted and the passenger fell out because the seat hadn't been bolted in. Amazingly, despite heading earthwards unexpectedly at 9.81m/sec2 he had the presence of mind to find the ripcord and pull it. Each thought the other was dead until they landed. A friend of mine was in the air at the time and heard it happening live over the radio.
Simpo Two said:
Every time I see it I think of the accident about 25 years ago when it - or another one - rolled inverted and the passenger fell out because the seat hadn't been bolted in. Amazingly, despite heading earthwards unexpectedly at 9.81m/sec2 he had the presence of mind to find the ripcord and pull it. Each thought the other was dead until they landed. A friend of mine was in the air at the time and heard it happening live over the radio.
I remember this well as it flew over our house at the time shortly after the incident! Still get the odd Jet Provost buzzing around here, the sound of it is instantly recognisable for me because of that day.
Eric Mc said:
They sound noisy considering how slow they're going.
I've managed a few hours on JP and Strikemaster. My instructor's first words on strapping myself into the JP were "Welcome to the constant speed, variable noise machine." He wasn't wrong. The Strikemaster is a little better though 
The other thing that stuck in my mind was not letting the engine drop below 55% on final, as a rapid advance of throttle for a go-around can have the interesting side effect of causing the engine to flame out! Thankfully engine tech has moved on just a bit since then.
Magnum 475 said:
I've managed a few hours on JP and Strikemaster. My instructor's first words on strapping myself into the JP were "Welcome to the constant speed, variable noise machine." He wasn't wrong. The Strikemaster is a little better though
The other thing that stuck in my mind was not letting the engine drop below 55% on final, as a rapid advance of throttle for a go-around can have the interesting side effect of causing the engine to flame out! Thankfully engine tech has moved on just a bit since then.
The “variable noise, constant speed” insult was also given to the Jaguar. It was also said that Jags only took off because the Earth’s surface curved away underneath them. The other thing that stuck in my mind was not letting the engine drop below 55% on final, as a rapid advance of throttle for a go-around can have the interesting side effect of causing the engine to flame out! Thankfully engine tech has moved on just a bit since then.
I miss the sound of reheat. I really do. I occasionally pass by Lakenheath when I can, but it was a regular part of my life from 1982-1999 at Honington, Leeming and Dhahran.
Tony1963 said:
The “variable noise, constant speed” insult was also given to the Jaguar. It was also said that Jags only took off because the Earth’s surface curved away underneath them.
I always liked the Jaguar, ever since making an Airfix model of one. They just looked right, compared to the thumping great Tornado 'MRCA' that came after it. When did the RAF last have a proper bomber? Was it the Vulcan?spitfire-ian said:
It's been back over for a third time today. Looks like it comes out of North Weald, comes up around the top of Colchester with a little fiddling about whilst it's there then heads for home.
I wheeled out the trusty Bofors but kept missing him. Need more practice. Now I'm just ankle deep in shell cases and the corner of my garage is missing...Simpo Two said:
Tony1963 said:
The “variable noise, constant speed” insult was also given to the Jaguar. It was also said that Jags only took off because the Earth’s surface curved away underneath them.
I always liked the Jaguar, ever since making an Airfix model of one. They just looked right, compared to the thumping great Tornado 'MRCA' that came after it. When did the RAF last have a proper bomber? Was it the Vulcan?Tony1963 said:
The “variable noise, constant speed” insult was also given to the Jaguar. It was also said that Jags only took off because the Earth’s surface curved away underneath them.
I miss the sound of reheat. I really do. I occasionally pass by Lakenheath when I can, but it was a regular part of my life from 1982-1999 at Honington, Leeming and Dhahran.
Good mate of mine I went through RAF flying training with was an instructor on Jags. He said they were an absolute pig to turn at anything under 300kts and every cockpit had a different layout so on strapping in, you had to quickly memorise where the radios and navaids were so you could keep your head out the cockpit once airborne! I miss the sound of reheat. I really do. I occasionally pass by Lakenheath when I can, but it was a regular part of my life from 1982-1999 at Honington, Leeming and Dhahran.
I never got to fly the JP, it went out of service just before I joined up. Still, not sitting next to your instructor meant they couldn’t hit you for f
king up like I used to get flying the Bulldog through training 
Simpo Two said:
Every time I see it I think of the accident about 25 years ago when it - or another one - rolled inverted and the passenger fell out because the seat hadn't been bolted in. Amazingly, despite heading earthwards unexpectedly at 9.81m/sec2 he had the presence of mind to find the ripcord and pull it. Each thought the other was dead until they landed. A friend of mine was in the air at the time and heard it happening live over the radio.
Canopy open or did they smash through it?hidetheelephants said:
Simpo Two said:
Every time I see it I think of the accident about 25 years ago when it - or another one - rolled inverted and the passenger fell out because the seat hadn't been bolted in. Amazingly, despite heading earthwards unexpectedly at 9.81m/sec2 he had the presence of mind to find the ripcord and pull it. Each thought the other was dead until they landed. A friend of mine was in the air at the time and heard it happening live over the radio.
Canopy open or did they smash through it?Edited by eharding on Friday 5th April 01:13
'The flight training included aerobatics and the procedures for abandoning the aircraft in flight'
Which were evidently 'Undo seat bolts, roll upside down'...
I like 'totally perplexed by the sudden absence of anything around him'
How did he fall free of the seat? ETA - bottom of p23.
Which were evidently 'Undo seat bolts, roll upside down'...
I like 'totally perplexed by the sudden absence of anything around him'
How did he fall free of the seat? ETA - bottom of p23.
Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 5th April 11:16
Simpo Two said:
Big thing with lots of bombs. Not a fighter with little bombs stuck on the outside
All you’re doing is narrowing it down to only include your favourites! The GR1 etc Tornados were never fighters. Interdictor/Strike from the word go, and could drop bombs far more accurately than anything from the V-Force (as you’d expect!)
This sort of thing takes me back to my early days at Marham. I was on Tornado, and a few drinking pals were on the Victors. I received constant grief from them about our Tonkas just being little toys compared to their big manly Victors. And then one day while I was working on Visiting Aircraft, we parked a Tristar tanker right next to a couple of Victors. I think a Victor fuselage could almost have fitted under that of the Tristar! My middle finger did get shown in the general direction of the grubby Victor boys
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