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Apache
Original Poster
38,246 posts
153 months
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goldblum said: turbobloke said: It's chaotic behaviour.
So, define 'normal' as these episodes happen normally.
Nothing to do with lemonade fizz from PHers' cars. Nope Sky news weathergirl just said it's not normal jetstream fluctuation,and she's a professional. warming southern oceans is one such theory
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kerplunk
2,942 posts
75 months
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Digga said: May be the wettest June, but I cannot think that June 2007 was too far behind. I can clearly remebmer the disruption it caused our industry and the way in which it rained - less big downpours at a time, but more just huge cloud masses and steady, persistent rain.
A friend who flys (for fun, in a Yak 52) reckoned the only time he'd ever seen similar cloud mass was over the Midwestern US states. Indeed, June 2007 was the previous record. July that year also pretty wet in places... 
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thinfourth2
23,584 posts
73 months
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Whats he doing here?
Did anyone say CO2?
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Blue62
1,396 posts
21 months
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Mark Benson said: Why's that, if they are.
This isn't Facebook you know. If you're wrong about something, you're likely to be told. Grow up. I was merely suggesting that the weather over the last few months has been extreme, the facts would seem to support this statement and my response was a reaction to someone suggesting otherwise. Not Facebook, boy that made me laugh along with the friendly advice, but be careful as someone could actually take you seriously which might cause unnecessary upset.
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kerplunk
2,942 posts
75 months
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thinfourth2 said: Whats he doing here? It's raining.
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rs1952
3,274 posts
128 months
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Blue62 said: I was merely suggesting that the weather over the last few months has been extreme, the facts would seem to support this statement and my response was a reaction to someone suggesting otherwise. If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well. How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree? In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
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turbobloke
55,493 posts
129 months
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That's just it, the 'facts' don't support any such thing but it looks different as the media doesn't have a clue and won't take the trouble to find out. Officialdom is little better, the authorities have no authority. If somebody isn't prepared to find out for themselves, because they can't or won't and if it's served up on a plate and the same myths and legends are still believed, there's no point in continuing. If people have some weird need and want to believe fairytales for personal reasons, reasoning will always be a waste of time.
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thinfourth2
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73 months
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Blib
20,650 posts
66 months
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Blue62 said: That's all anecdotal and while I don't want to engage in scaremongering, the facts are that we are witnessing more extreme patterns of weather with records being broken for dry and wet spells over the last few years. It could well be that we are just going through a cycle of unusual patterns and it has nothing to do with global warming, but don't start telling us that you've seen it all before because put frankly, we haven't. I remember ball boys swimming in the flooded stairwells and walkways at Wimbledon years back. The weather is no different around the World than it's always been. It's just that more parts of the Earth have sophisticated weather monitoring stations and communications are so much better. Mix in 24 hour b  ks, I mean news and every single itty-bitty thing gets thrown at us.
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thinfourth2
23,584 posts
73 months
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rs1952 said: If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years. Perth bridge in scotland  We're doomed
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Blib
20,650 posts
66 months
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thinfourth2 said: Goes to prove that when it comes to Climate change believers, you can have your cake and eat it too. They've got a f king model for everything, that mob. 
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turbobloke
55,493 posts
129 months
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That sounds like the message that got into one of the major comedy works of our time, the Stern Report. Not that this thread should become a climate zone, as it's about normal variations in our weather (some normal variations are less frequent, still normal) but since weather is climate when it halps alarmists in their cause, here's what an IPCC Expert Reviewer had to say about this kind of silliness. Prof Kellow said: I was a referee for Chapter 19 in the Report on 'Key Vulnerabilities and Risk Assessment'...I put it that the First Order Draft read as if (in a warmer, and therefore wetter, world) no rain would fall in any form that would be in any way useful to anyone: there would be only floods and droughts.
The Second Order Draft included some language to the effect that this was because the Committee had decided that it should be so, to which I responded that they should not then represent their analysis as a risk assessment, since any sensible risk assessment must include benefits as well as costs. I'm not holding my breath for this criticism to be taken on board either, which underscores a fault in the whole peer review process for the IPCC: there is no chance of a Chapter ever being rejected for publication, no matter how flawed it might be. State sponsored junk and bunk never had it so good.
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Blue62
1,396 posts
21 months
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rs1952 said: If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years. I don't think I was referring to you, but in any case I remember many of the instances to which you refer and don't doubt them for a moment. I am keeping an open mind on climate change, however, my original point was simply that we have had a record run for wet weather over the last 3, possibly 4 months and I dared to suggest that is unusual. I can't remember so many summer events being affected either, but I'm sure I will be corrected by someone desperate to kill any notion of things being anything but normal.
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turbobloke
55,493 posts
129 months
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Blue62 said: rs1952 said: If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years. I don't think I was referring to you, but in any case I remember many of the instances to which you refer and don't doubt them for a moment. I am keeping an open mind on climate change, however, my original point was simply that we have had a record run for wet weather over the last 3, possibly 4 months and I dared to suggest that is unusual. I can't remember so many summer events being affected either, but I'm sure I will be corrected by someone desperate to kill any notion of things being anything but normal. Desperate isn't the word, bored to death with the hype and mythology is more like it but no matter how much evidence is offered there's no respite. You must have skipped over large parts of previous posts to remain unconvinced, but if that's how you want to be... Don't keep an open mind on climate change, it's been happening for millions of years.
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Blackpuddin
4,803 posts
74 months
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Digga said: A friend who flys (for fun, in a Yak 52) I know someone like that. He's not called Bob is he?
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nelly1
4,922 posts
100 months
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turbobloke said: Don't keep an open mind on climate change, it's been happening for millions of years. Ah, but the MoneyMakingScaremongeringSpinMachine© is a relatively recent invention.
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Mojocvh
12,721 posts
131 months
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Apache said: How comes it is fair through the week yet, without fail, clouds over nicely on friday for the weekend? you've only just noticed?
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unrepentant
14,407 posts
125 months
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Think yourselves lucky. This was the temp in my car when I jumped in to drive home last night. I dream of rain. 
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crazy about cars
2,322 posts
38 months
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unrepentant said: Think yourselves lucky. This was the temp in my car when I jumped in to drive home last night. I dream of rain. Nice car  Rain is nice, yes but not every single day during summer... I would at least expect to enjoy a good, sunny, warm, weekend in summer. 
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Mr GrimNasty
2,470 posts
39 months
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unrepentant said: Think yourselves lucky. This was the temp in my car when I jumped in to drive home last night. I dream of rain. Well all you have to do is repent!
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