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Guam
15,570 posts
138 months
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Contigo said: I say planned/hit job.
Father has background in aerospace and satellite industry etc and someone wants him dead. Find his holiday plans as it's easier to do away from busy UK. Waits for the moment and fires into BMW. Kid in front bolts from the car and runs down the road. Hitman puts more shots into the BMW and kills remaining adults with the classic headshots. In the melee the youngest girl jumps under the seat and plays dead. Cyclist arrives on scene and causes more disruption and is gunned down. Hitman drives at young girl and knocks here down (fractures scull) and fires whilst driving hitting her in the shoulder (no reports of head shots).
This reminds me of the Marconi murders many years ago.
There is still the Unsolved murder <i believe its still unsolved> on the Black and Decker UK Purchasing Director in Lille <iirc> from many years ago. Reputedly bullet to the head.
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ViperPict
8,596 posts
107 months
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Guam said: Contigo said: I say planned/hit job.
Father has background in aerospace and satellite industry etc and someone wants him dead. Find his holiday plans as it's easier to do away from busy UK. Waits for the moment and fires into BMW. Kid in front bolts from the car and runs down the road. Hitman puts more shots into the BMW and kills remaining adults with the classic headshots. In the melee the youngest girl jumps under the seat and plays dead. Cyclist arrives on scene and causes more disruption and is gunned down. Hitman drives at young girl and knocks here down (fractures scull) and fires whilst driving hitting her in the shoulder (no reports of head shots).
This reminds me of the Marconi murders many years ago.
There is still the Unsolved murder <i believe its still unsolved> on the Black and Decker UK Purchasing Director in Lille <iirc> from many years ago. Reputedly bullet to the head. Also the bank manager in Nairn. Was handed a letter by someone at the front door of his home, went inside, back to the front door and bullet in the head and the letter taken back off him.
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Contigo
1,865 posts
79 months
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Steve Zodiac said: Much easier to do a hit on home ground, known address & familiar/regular work patterns etc. perhaps this was a payoff meet or dropoff meet and the intelligence services of an as yet unknown country wished to end the cosy arrangement. You are joking right? CCTV these days captures you more or less every few minutes. A hit in this remote part of France even with full family in tow is way easier.
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Pesty
26,142 posts
126 months
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ViperPict said: Also the bank manager in Nairn. Was handed a letter by someone at the front door of his home, went inside, back to the front door and bullet in the head and the letter taken back off him. If the letter was taken back off him. How do the police know he was handed a letter, also if you are given a letter at the door you would shut it before you walk off wouldn't you? doesn't it make more sense that opens door,man with gun, turn to run get shot? or was there a witness? or did you do it and are giving the exact mo?
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Steve Zodiac
314 posts
13 months
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Contigo said: Steve Zodiac said: Much easier to do a hit on home ground, known address & familiar/regular work patterns etc. perhaps this was a payoff meet or dropoff meet and the intelligence services of an as yet unknown country wished to end the cosy arrangement. You are joking right? CCTV these days captures you more or less every few minutes. A hit in this remote part of France even with full family in tow is way easier. If, and it's a BIG If, you somehow know their holiday arrangements, where they are staying and planning to go each and every day and at what time, then yes a remote & rural location will offer greater privacy & chance of escape. Balance that against unpredictable & random changes of plan, if indeed you happened to know said plans in the first place. Also definite knowledge of an intended targets movemnents is far more important than a quiet location, ask JFK or MLK. The only thing CCTV has a chance of bringing to justice is you parking illegally.
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tali1
3,418 posts
71 months
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Dunno if mentioned previously but this is v similar to notorious Sir Jack Drummond murder "In 1952, Boots' top chemist, Sir Jack Drummond, his wife, Lady Ann, and daughter, Elizabeth, were murdered in the south of France. A 75-year-old French man, who used a walking stick, was convicted of the brutal murders. It was France's crime of the 20th Century and to this day the conspiracy theories are abundant." http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_a...
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bitchstewie
8,815 posts
80 months
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I love how threads like these bring out all the f  king amateur assassins who know exactly how s t like this happens because they used to bullseye womp rats in their T-16's back home. FFS.
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Vieste
9,195 posts
30 months
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Steve Zodiac
314 posts
13 months
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b hstewie said: I love how threads like these bring out all the f king amateur assassins who know exactly how s t like this happens because they used to bullseye womp rats in their T-16's back home. FFS. b hin street talk Stewie boy! So you've seen all the hip movies too? Way cool bro! Anyway, your theory is???
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Pesty
26,142 posts
126 months
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Has murder suicide definitely been ruled out then?
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Steve Zodiac
314 posts
13 months
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Pesty said: Has murder suicide definitely been ruled out then? No weapon recovered as yet, so probably not that?
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Deva Link
26,934 posts
115 months
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Steve Zodiac said: Much easier to do a hit on home ground, known address & familiar/regular work patterns etc. perhaps this was a payoff meet or dropoff meet and the intelligence services of an as yet unknown country wished to end the cosy arrangement. If it was an arranged meeting then it's bit odd to take your wife, mother and kids. The timing strikes me as a bit odd - the youngest kid was due to start school this week. OK, I know some people think school is secondary to their holidays, but surely they wouldn't have wanted her to miss her first few days at school? Especially for something like a caravan holiday, which is pretty flexible.
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Pesty
26,142 posts
126 months
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Steve Zodiac said: Pesty said: Has murder suicide definitely been ruled out then? No weapon recovered as yet, so probably not that? To be fair it did take them 8 hours to find a living human that is a bit bigger. Its seems very unlikely to me mainly because of the cyclists also killed, just wondering if it had officially been ruled out and they were definitley looking for persons unknown.
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Steve Zodiac
314 posts
13 months
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Deva Link said: Steve Zodiac said: Much easier to do a hit on home ground, known address & familiar/regular work patterns etc. perhaps this was a payoff meet or dropoff meet and the intelligence services of an as yet unknown country wished to end the cosy arrangement. If it was an arranged meeting then it's bit odd to take your wife, mother and kids. The timing strikes me as a bit odd - the youngest kid was due to start school this week. OK, I know some people think school is secondary to their holidays, but surely they wouldn't have wanted her to miss her first few days at school? Especially for something like a caravan holiday, which is pretty flexible. Fair point. In which case it points to an unexpected event. Which then means a surprise vengeance/retribution attack. Something in Mr Hilli's past has come back to bite him hard.
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ViperPict
8,596 posts
107 months
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Pesty said: ViperPict said: Also the bank manager in Nairn. Was handed a letter by someone at the front door of his home, went inside, back to the front door and bullet in the head and the letter taken back off him. If the letter was taken back off him. How do the police know he was handed a letter, also if you are given a letter at the door you would shut it before you walk off wouldn't you? doesn't it make more sense that opens door,man with gun, turn to run get shot? or was there a witness? or did you do it and are giving the exact mo? His wife apparently noticed him with the letter when he initially came back from the front door. Still very weird though.
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Deva Link
26,934 posts
115 months
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Steve Zodiac said: Fair point.
In which case it points to an unexpected event. Which then means a surprise vengeance/retribution attack.
Something in Mr Hilli's past has come back to bite him hard. The pictures of the car do look like it was trying to get away.
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robmlufc
2,922 posts
56 months
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Contigo said: I say planned/hit job.
Father has background in aerospace and satellite industry etc and someone wants him dead.
I have a background in aerospace and satellites.... I might give Le Mans a miss next year!
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Olf
10,866 posts
88 months
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Times website showing blanked out car reg but showing full number plate of the caravan.
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Olf
10,866 posts
88 months
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And what is that on the roof of the BMW?
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bitchstewie
8,815 posts
80 months
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Steve Zodiac said: b hin street talk Stewie boy! So you've seen all the hip movies too? Way cool bro! Anyway, your theory is??? I haven't got a theory which is why I'm not trying to make out as if I was the man on the grassy knoll.
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