'Jewish patrol cars' in North London

'Jewish patrol cars' in North London

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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
this is no different to the so called muslim patrols a short step from vigilante patrols
The Muslim/Shariah patrols we saw were trying to enforce their own 'moral code' - I don't think we can compare this to that.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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sugerbear said:
Quite shocking, why aren't they driving a Volvo 940 estate?
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Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
This is scarcely different to the devout "sharia zone" or "Moslem Area" policing that was discussed a while ago here on PH.

It only differs because so far they haven't confiscated anyone's beer/bacon yet.
The "sharia zone" idiots are trying to enforce sharia law.

These guys are there to potentially protect people from muslims trying to enforce sharia law

It's not difficult to work out.

How effective they will be is another issue, although it is a sad state of affairs that they need to exist in 21st century London

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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indeed

and after the the experience London Hatzolah had with the CQC and Manchester Hatzolah with the Police and courts , you'd think theym ight be a little more careful ...

the fundamental difference however is that these Jewish organisations do not attempt to impose on others unlike the 'sharia zone' muppets

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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BlackLabel said:
citizensm1th said:
this is no different to the so called muslim patrols a short step from vigilante patrols
The Muslim/Shariah patrols we saw were trying to enforce their own 'moral code' - I don't think we can compare this to that.
yes you can they are both steps on the same path to communities separating themselves from the rest of society and turning to their own form of justice instead of a single state system
our policing system developed from just such a state of affairs and it seems is on a retrograde path its bloody shameful

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Matt80M said:
Actually, the more I think about, the more I think you are right. Nothing wrong with gearing up neighbourhood watch around vulnerable targets but no need for a fake police car.
But what are 2 fake police going to do up against someone armed who want's to become a martyr and kill as many before he achieves that?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
BlackLabel said:
citizensm1th said:
this is no different to the so called muslim patrols a short step from vigilante patrols
The Muslim/Shariah patrols we saw were trying to enforce their own 'moral code' - I don't think we can compare this to that.
yes you can they are both steps on the same path to communities separating themselves from the rest of society and turning to their own form of justice instead of a single state system
our policing system developed from just such a state of affairs and it seems is on a retrograde path its bloody shameful
A first step on the path is about all you could claim. When you said it was no different you were talking utter crap and probably a bit too keen to show both groups as no different, for what reason I don't know.
I'm not sure you'll find too many people who believe that car is going to pull up alongside anyone and start screaming about a God and that someone should cover up or stop drinking in the name of that God under a threat of violence.
The sad truth is that they probably feel under threat from another part of the community, so maybe you would be best served debating the melting pot.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Above the 'Shomrim' logo:

'Working in partnership with Metropolitan Police'

Might suggest a slightly different organisation than some mentioned here.

It's a mobile neighbourhood watch.

Battenburging does seem a little naughty though.

storminnorman

2,357 posts

153 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Iirc new york has had this for quite some time

NicD

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3,281 posts

258 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Moominho said:
One of these clipped a work colleague when she was on her bike, on the A10 coming up to Stamford Hill. She first thought it was a police car but afterwards thought the signs on the side were odd. She shouted something at them (probably not very polite), and asked if they were actual police? They apparently said yes, told her to f off and then drove off at high speed.

I thought she was making it up to be honest, but the marking in that photo and the text is exactly as she described.
This would be my worry, these types breaking the law with impunity.
At least with the police, there is accountability.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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storminnorman said:
Iirc new york has had this for quite some time
US Hatzolah also follow the rules ... unlike at least 2 of the UK groups ...

Unfortunately the UK Jewish community and busking it when it comes to emergency response has a prior rap sheet.


Stevanos

700 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Firstly, I think it is stupid,

Secondly, is it not more likely to be seen as divisive and potentially rubbing certain peoples noses in it?


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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As I was clicking on this thread I was thinking "please be gold, please be gold..."

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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some people need to do some research into this "neighbourhood watch group" specifically the effect they have had in the under reporting of crime and the really worrying fact that these people have gained anti terror training from the metropolitan police ffs!

so what is to stop another "group" of Londoners setting up a similar group lets say an irish,afro Caribbean ,Arminian,turkish,muslim,polish community approaching the metropolitan police for the same training and support?

talk about letting the fox in with the chickens

lets not even go down the route of mesirah yet

Chipmunk1

1,314 posts

163 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Only 2 pages ? I'm guessing if it was the Muslim patrol protecting areas where there might be revenge attacks, like there already have been, this thread will be in uproar

TokyoSexwhale

12,230 posts

195 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Johnnytheboy said:
As I was clicking on this thread I was thinking "please be gold, please be gold..."
hehe

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
some people need to do some research into this "neighbourhood watch group" specifically the effect they have had in the under reporting of crime and the really worrying fact that these people have gained anti terror training from the metropolitan police ffs!

so what is to stop another "group" of Londoners setting up a similar group lets say an irish,afro Caribbean ,Arminian,turkish,muslim,polish community approaching the metropolitan police for the same training and support?

talk about letting the fox in with the chickens

lets not even go down the route of mesirah yet
At least you gave up trying to compare it to the sharia law enforcer type idiots.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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egor110 said:
If they fear some sort of muslim terrorist attack on a synagogue , what exactly are 2 blokes in a car going to do to stop it?
Run them down biglaugh

TankRizzo said:
I think they missed a trick to be honest, in times of great need they should have called for the Flying Rabbi!
Few years ago, pulled up behind a car on the Hard shoulder with a flat tyre no where near a 'Jewish area' with a rabbi looking bloke and family in it,

Virtually as soon as we stopped to see if they were ok a couple of 'handy' looking blokes screeched up in a BMW, Yellow jackets on and a wheel change nearly as quick as a F1 team before they all fooked off pretty sharpish.

jogon

2,971 posts

159 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Chipmunk1 said:
Only 2 pages ? I'm guessing if it was the Muslim patrol protecting areas where there might be revenge attacks, like there already have been, this thread will be in uproar
They already do, Sharia Patrols, but don't seem to working out quite as well..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2519519/Mu...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
some people need to do some research into this "neighbourhood watch group" specifically the effect they have had in the under reporting of crime and the really worrying fact that these people have gained anti terror training from the metropolitan police ffs!

so what is to stop another "group" of Londoners setting up a similar group lets say an irish,afro Caribbean ,Arminian,turkish,muslim,polish community approaching the metropolitan police for the same training and support?

talk about letting the fox in with the chickens

lets not even go down the route of mesirah yet
You can imagine the 'Guarda' and this lot drawing a line on the Finchley Road as the no man's land.

Jewish supermarkets on sone side and Irish pubs on the other. It'll be bedlam.