Laurence Fox home raided this am (Blade runner comments?)
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I've been pondering for a week or so exactly what Fox's endgame is.
Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
He just strikes me as an absolute tool.
Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
He just strikes me as an absolute tool.
rscott said:
Not only encouraged them, but also said he was going to join them in committing criminal damage. Even said he was happy to be arrested.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lauren...
Is he not happy then? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lauren...
Independent said:
In the interview, Fox told host Maajid Nawaz: “I encourage them to tear down every single camera there is.
“I will be joining them to tear down cameras as well. Because I’m one of those people who puts my money where my mouth is.
“I will be out there with an angle grinder.”
He added: “I would be happy to be arrested myself.”
“I will be joining them to tear down cameras as well. Because I’m one of those people who puts my money where my mouth is.
“I will be out there with an angle grinder.”
He added: “I would be happy to be arrested myself.”
PurpleTurtle said:
I've been pondering for a week or so exactly what Fox's endgame is.
Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
He just strikes me as an absolute tool.
He's from an old London showbiz family, they have money.Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
He just strikes me as an absolute tool.
I think it's the same thing as Graham Linehan tbh, he needs something to blame for pissing his life away so something something woke grrr is the grift.
PurpleTurtle said:
I've been pondering for a week or so exactly what Fox's endgame is.
Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
I think you missed out the part where he appeared on QT and stated Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
QT said:
Laurence denied this was the case, calling Britain ‘the most tolerant, lovely country in Europe’, and adding: ‘It’s so easy to throw the card of racism at everybody and it’s really starting to get boring now.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/20/laurence-fox-said-question-time-wokies-rundown-drama-12089524/So he didn't actually appear on QT and "re-invent himself as the anti-woke poster boy". He stated something that likely he sincerely believed and isn't actually likely all that controversial with many, unless you think the majority of the population think the opposite.
What then happened is he was "cancelled" and likely many of his actions afterwards were motivated by bitterness. Though of course it is also likely that without the ability to earn money from acting he set to earning money from being a provocateur.
His primary sin was not being intelligent enough to realise that unless you are too powerful to cancel you don't commit heresy. As from that point he was never likely to work as an actor again. The Harry Potter kids didn't make that mistake.
JagLover said:
PurpleTurtle said:
I've been pondering for a week or so exactly what Fox's endgame is.
Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
I think you missed out the part where he appeared on QT and stated Here you have a well-educated actor from a wealthy(ish?) family who used to be in the most beige of ITV dramas ever, the kind of thing your nan would like.
He then gave that all up, had a short spell at attempting to be a rockstar (a paltry 46 copies of his album sold in the first week of release) then appeared on Question Time where he seemingly reinvented himself as the anti-woke poster boy and ramped up his Twitter followers. He then had an ill-fated attempt at being London Mayor (lost his deposit with only 1.9% of the vote) and has then been hired/suspended/sacked from GB News for misogynistic comments. Today's instalment is that he's (rightly) being investigated for conspiracy to commit criminal damage for trying to whip up a mob to commit ULEZ camera vandalism.
My thoughts are, bearing in mind he is divorced with a couple of kids to fund:
1) Does he have enough wedge to never have to work again? He wasn't that successful an actor so I doubt he has millions in the bank (happy to stand corrected)
2) If not, what does he expect to do now as gainful employment? Is this a grift to somehow align himself as some sort of saviour of free speech which he then goes on to monetise?
QT said:
Laurence denied this was the case, calling Britain ‘the most tolerant, lovely country in Europe’, and adding: ‘It’s so easy to throw the card of racism at everybody and it’s really starting to get boring now.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/20/laurence-fox-said-question-time-wokies-rundown-drama-12089524/So he didn't actually appear on QT and "re-invent himself as the anti-woke poster boy". He stated something that likely he sincerely believed and isn't actually likely all that controversial with many, unless you think the majority of the population think the opposite.
What then happened is he was "cancelled" and likely many of his actions afterwards were motivated by bitterness. Though of course it is also likely that without the ability to earn money from acting he set to earning money from being a provocateur.
His primary sin was not being intelligent enough to realise that unless you are too powerful to cancel you don't commit heresy. As from that point he was never likely to work as an actor again. The Harry Potter kids didn't make that mistake.
eharding said:
Countdown said:
Is it now illegal to be a complete moron. tosser, cretin and publicity-seeking arsewipe?
None of those things are illegal - incitement and conspiracy to commit criminal damage *are* however. Doing so in public is where "moron. tosser, cretin and publicity-seeking arsewipe" bit comes in.Maybe it’s like the that pre-crime film with Tom cruise, police can now see Fox cutting down a ULEZ camera sometime in the future, so arrest him before he does it!
ITP said:
I guess the whole of channel 4 will be raided anytime soon then.
Maybe it’s like the that pre-crime film with Tom cruise, police can now see Fox cutting down a ULEZ camera sometime in the future, so arrest him before he does it!
What criminal activities have C4 been advocating for?Maybe it’s like the that pre-crime film with Tom cruise, police can now see Fox cutting down a ULEZ camera sometime in the future, so arrest him before he does it!
Countdown said:
ITP said:
I guess the whole of channel 4 will be raided anytime soon then.
Maybe it’s like the that pre-crime film with Tom cruise, police can now see Fox cutting down a ULEZ camera sometime in the future, so arrest him before he does it!
What criminal activities have C4 been advocating for?Maybe it’s like the that pre-crime film with Tom cruise, police can now see Fox cutting down a ULEZ camera sometime in the future, so arrest him before he does it!
ZedLeg said:
I think it's the same thing as Graham Linehan tbh, he needs something to blame for pissing his life away so something something woke grrr is the grift.
Another one cancelled over one incident. In that case I believe the sequence of events was a rebroadcast of the IT crowd episode in 2013 where the Boss has a relationship with a Transgender woman. This then provoked a Twitter backlash and Linehan was responding to some of the comments. He also was cancelled at that point and if you look at his work history essentially never worked again after 2013.
Looks like he is starting to get his life back on track and has some healthy pre-orders for his biography. Another one who lacked the wisdom to keep his head down and bow to the prevailing ideology of the day.
Have your shop raided over and over again by shoplifters and then report that to police. The turnout of officers is not so impressive, many reports see zero police action or attendance. Seems almost as if there could be a whiff of political skullduggery in the Fox-gate incident. Threat is a more problematic crime as opposed to theft perhaps.
JagLover said:
So he didn't actually appear on QT and "re-invent himself as the anti-woke poster boy". He stated something that likely he sincerely believed and isn't actually likely all that controversial with many, unless you think the majority of the population think the opposite.
My recollection of him appearing on QT was a black lady in the audience referring to his "white male privilege" and him decrying that as "racist". It struck me as a bit knob-ish from both sides. The lady making that accusation would have probably been better off explaining that as a white male from an affluent background who went to Harrow then he almost certainly has had an easier ride in life than a black kid off a council estate, but for him to be so tone deaf as to (choose to) not recognise that, and respond with "whoo, inverse racism, back at you" (I paraphrase) made him look the bigger knob, in my view. He invited what he would probably call the subsequent leftist pile-on because he was deliberately provocative.
As far as his white male privilege goes, this jumped out of his Wikipedia page at me: my bold for emphasis
At the age of 13, he was enrolled at Harrow School. He was expelled a few weeks before taking his A-Level exams, and was unable to obtain a place at any university due to a report about him from Harrow After working as a gardener and in an office, he decided to follow his family into acting, and successfully auditioned for RADA
Yeah, absolutely no privilege on display there.
One wonders if he got his dad to 'do a Toby Young' and call up his old mate, the admissions tutor. JagLover said:
ZedLeg said:
I think it's the same thing as Graham Linehan tbh, he needs something to blame for pissing his life away so something something woke grrr is the grift.
Another one cancelled over one incident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Linehan
smn159 said:
JagLover said:
ZedLeg said:
I think it's the same thing as Graham Linehan tbh, he needs something to blame for pissing his life away so something something woke grrr is the grift.
Another one cancelled over one incident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Linehan
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