Policing of pro Palestinian marches

Policing of pro Palestinian marches

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rohrl

8,740 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I once stood on the pavement next to some kind of pro fox hunting march holding a sign saying Ban Fox Hunting. I’m pretty sure that had I decided to step into the road and march against the flow of protesters I’d have been arrested for a breach of the peace.

Vanden Saab

14,127 posts

75 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Scrimpton said:
Vanden Saab said:
g4ry13 said:
Some heavy-handed policing going on today. I guess that's the difference when dealing with a mostly caucasian gathering.
Are they not supposed to take videos and arrest them later?
Hopefully there was nobody of a dusky hue wandering about all blatant like

Oliver Hardy

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2,566 posts

75 months

Wednesday 24th April
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rohrl said:
Oliver Hardy said:
wisbech said:
Oliver Hardy said:
So this weeks protest against the Chinese will take place and next weeks protest and the week later?

When was the last protest march against the Chinese?

When was there a protest on the scale of the anti Israel protest against the russians if there ever was one?
Not sure your point? Feel free to start a protest march against the Chinese if it is something you feel strongly about.
My point is there are protests against Israel but non against Russia, China...
And that is pure whataboutism. When did you last organise or go on a March to protest against Russia or China or anyone else?
It is about why people are demonstrating against Israel and not whether I have been or organized a marches against Russia and China

rohrl

8,740 posts

146 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Oliver Hardy said:
rohrl said:
Oliver Hardy said:
wisbech said:
Oliver Hardy said:
So this weeks protest against the Chinese will take place and next weeks protest and the week later?

When was the last protest march against the Chinese?

When was there a protest on the scale of the anti Israel protest against the russians if there ever was one?
Not sure your point? Feel free to start a protest march against the Chinese if it is something you feel strongly about.
My point is there are protests against Israel but non against Russia, China...
And that is pure whataboutism. When did you last organise or go on a March to protest against Russia or China or anyone else?
It is about why people are demonstrating against Israel and not whether I have been or organized a marches against Russia and China
We know why people are demonstrating against Israel. It’s because they disagree with how Israel treats the Palestinian population in the West Bank and Gaza. You might disagree with them but that’s the reason the protest marches happen.

If you haven’t been on or organised a march against China or Russia why do you expect anyone else should?

ukwill

8,915 posts

208 months

Wednesday 24th April
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rohrl said:
I once stood on the pavement next to some kind of pro fox hunting march holding a sign saying Ban Fox Hunting. I’m pretty sure that had I decided to step into the road and march against the flow of protesters I’d have been arrested for a breach of the peace.
I'm at a loss to understand how that is in anyway analogous to holding up a sign saying something like "Hamas is a Terrorist Entity. Free the hostages"

Hamas *are* a proscribed terrorist org in the UK - yet we saw the Met Police arrest an Iranian bloke for holding a banner stating they were terrorists only a week ago...

But like the jewish guy, maybe with a banner like that he was an "agitator" too?

In a similar vein others have tried to use the fact that were some other jewish people on the march. Yet they were not holding up banners saying similar. Perhaps we should next point to the Neturei Karta? (when they're not busy burning the Israeli flag). This is all such contrived bullst.

rscott

14,763 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th April
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ukwill said:
rohrl said:
I once stood on the pavement next to some kind of pro fox hunting march holding a sign saying Ban Fox Hunting. I’m pretty sure that had I decided to step into the road and march against the flow of protesters I’d have been arrested for a breach of the peace.
I'm at a loss to understand how that is in anyway analogous to holding up a sign saying something like "Hamas is a Terrorist Entity. Free the hostages"

Hamas *are* a proscribed terrorist org in the UK - yet we saw the Met Police arrest an Iranian bloke for holding a banner stating they were terrorists only a week ago...

But like the jewish guy, maybe with a banner like that he was an "agitator" too?

In a similar vein others have tried to use the fact that were some other jewish people on the march. Yet they were not holding up banners saying similar. Perhaps we should next point to the Neturei Karta? (when they're not busy burning the Israeli flag). This is all such contrived bullst.
Who was holding a banner up? Faulter wasn't - he was repeatedly trying vto walk in and out of the protest, not cross the road.

Ridgemont

6,590 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th April
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rscott said:
ukwill said:
rohrl said:
I once stood on the pavement next to some kind of pro fox hunting march holding a sign saying Ban Fox Hunting. I’m pretty sure that had I decided to step into the road and march against the flow of protesters I’d have been arrested for a breach of the peace.
I'm at a loss to understand how that is in anyway analogous to holding up a sign saying something like "Hamas is a Terrorist Entity. Free the hostages"

Hamas *are* a proscribed terrorist org in the UK - yet we saw the Met Police arrest an Iranian bloke for holding a banner stating they were terrorists only a week ago...

But like the jewish guy, maybe with a banner like that he was an "agitator" too?

In a similar vein others have tried to use the fact that were some other jewish people on the march. Yet they were not holding up banners saying similar. Perhaps we should next point to the Neturei Karta? (when they're not busy burning the Israeli flag). This is all such contrived bullst.
Who was holding a banner up? Faulter wasn't - he was repeatedly trying vto walk in and out of the protest, not cross the road.
Hmm. The bloke who has been arrested 5 times with the met attempting to put onerous bail conditions on his release…
This thread isn’t just about Falter.

Randy Winkman

16,169 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Timothy Bucktu said:
...and? It's a free country...isn't it?
I'm not sure the expression "free country" means anything really, does it? There are loads and loads of things that are prohibited by law in the UK.

Dagnir

1,934 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Countdown said:
If that's what his intention had been then yes, 100% his fault.
If a woman went out in a skirt to film and highlight cat calling...but got raped instead, would that be her fault too?

Who_Goes_Blue

1,096 posts

172 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Dagnir said:
Countdown said:
If that's what his intention had been then yes, 100% his fault.
If a woman went out in a skirt to film and highlight cat calling...but got raped instead, would that be her fault too?
I think that may depend on if she supports Israel or not.

Dagnir

1,934 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th April
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rohrl said:
His entire intent is to provoke a fight, or at the very least to provoke antisemitic abuse, because he wants the marches banned, because he is a supporter of Netanyahu and the Israeli government. This is what the police officer who was talking to him meant when he said that he was being disingenuous in his claim just to want to cross the road.
Provoke or highlight the kind of people that are actually in the marches. (River to the sea etc)


If this was a lefty highlighting sexism at a maga rally for example, the progressive lot would be right behind her.


I love the fanaticism of the progressive cult...it's hilarious.

MrJuice

3,372 posts

157 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Tommo87

4,220 posts

114 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Vanden Saab said:
Scrimpton said:
Vanden Saab said:
g4ry13 said:
Some heavy-handed policing going on today. I guess that's the difference when dealing with a mostly caucasian gathering.
Are they not supposed to take videos and arrest them later?
Hopefully there was nobody of a dusky hue wandering about all blatant like
I can immediately think of at least five people on here who would be falling off their wooden crates and frothing like nutters about various phobias and isms tendencies if somebody had written that some bloke was riding a horse with the George cross on it, without the picture.


Dagnir

1,934 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Tommo87 said:
I can immediately think of at least five people on here who would be falling off their wooden crates and frothing like nutters about various phobias and isms tendencies if somebody had written that some bloke was riding a horse with the George cross on it, without the picture.
Are you trying to suggest that the people who throw the word bigot around an awful lot....are in fact bigoted themselves?

Surely not...

Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Tommo87 said:
I can immediately think of at least five people on here who would be falling off their wooden crates and frothing like nutters about various phobias and isms tendencies if somebody had written that some bloke was riding a horse with the George cross on it, without the picture.
As per the St George thread posted elsewhere there have been plenty of St George's parades and marches up and down the country. It appears that the vast majority of them took place peacefully without people needing to get drunk, start fights, or behave like retarded scum.

IME people get labelled as cretins because they behave like cretins, it's got nothing to do with them riding horses and waving flags.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Tommo87 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Scrimpton said:
Vanden Saab said:
g4ry13 said:
Some heavy-handed policing going on today. I guess that's the difference when dealing with a mostly caucasian gathering.
Are they not supposed to take videos and arrest them later?
Hopefully there was nobody of a dusky hue wandering about all blatant like
I can immediately think of at least five people on here who would be falling off their wooden crates and frothing like nutters about various phobias and isms tendencies if somebody had written that some bloke was riding a horse with the George cross on it, without the picture.
That'll be Chaz Singh, congratulating the England football team back in 2021.


Dagnir

1,934 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Countdown said:
As per the St George thread posted elsewhere there have been plenty of St George's parades and marches up and down the country. It appears that the vast majority of them took place peacefully without people needing to get drunk, start fights, or behave like retarded scum.

IME people get labelled as cretins because they behave like cretins, it's got nothing to do with them riding horses and waving flags.
I disagree.

If a photo of a skinhead with sovereign rings and tattoos was 'St George'd' up....the lefties would all immediately class him as a BNP type.


Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Dagnir said:
I disagree.

If a photo of a skinhead with sovereign rings and tattoos was 'St George'd' up....the lefties would all immediately class him as a BNP type.
Do you think the thugs fighting with the Police yesterday were "the BNP type" or just "normal decent blokes with a strong desire to celebrate our Patron Saint"?

swisstoni

17,033 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Countdown said:
Tommo87 said:
I can immediately think of at least five people on here who would be falling off their wooden crates and frothing like nutters about various phobias and isms tendencies if somebody had written that some bloke was riding a horse with the George cross on it, without the picture.
As per the St George thread posted elsewhere there have been plenty of St George's parades and marches up and down the country. It appears that the vast majority of them took place peacefully without people needing to get drunk, start fights, or behave like retarded scum.

IME people get labelled as cretins because they behave like cretins, it's got nothing to do with them riding horses and waving flags.
Quite often it seems that the more sanctimonious, the bigger the hypocrite.

Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th April
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MrJuice said:
What a bunch of anti-semites.