45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
EddieSteadyGo said:
LF5335 said:
There is no weaponisation of anything. If anything any attempt to hold Trump to account is pretty feeble and usually they fall over themselves to make sure there’s effectively no impact on him.
If you can't see a large part of the motivation is from Democrats trying to take down their political opponent, I can't help you. Unfortunately, if Trump wins, he is going to do exactly the same thing back. I don't like it; in fact, I think it is awful, but it's now fair game. Let's hope he loses.EddieSteadyGo said:
paulguitar said:
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Have you forgotten/overlooked, as just one example, that this fellow tried to end the democratic process in the US?
Which court concluded that?Have you forgotten/overlooked, as just one example, that this fellow tried to end the democratic process in the US?
EddieSteadyGo said:
Good question. Truthfully, I'm not sure. I remember the "lock her up" chants, which is definitely part of the same problem, so it clearly cuts both ways. But I think, either way, it is dangerous.
The judicial system is political in the US. Trump appointees have successfully shielded him in the past.
I think there are a lot of people motivated to demonstrate there are still checks and balances in the US. Maybe not enough of them though.
I don’t agree, at all, that everything against him is entirely political though.
gregs656 said:
The judicial system is political in the US.
Trump appointees have successfully shielded him in the past.
I think there are a lot of people motivated to demonstrate there are still checks and balances in the US. Maybe not enough of them though.
I don’t agree, at all, that everything against him is entirely political though.
The system is somewhat political, I agree, by design. And, I also agree, not everything against him is political motivated. Trump appointees have successfully shielded him in the past.
I think there are a lot of people motivated to demonstrate there are still checks and balances in the US. Maybe not enough of them though.
I don’t agree, at all, that everything against him is entirely political though.
EddieSteadyGo said:
paulguitar said:
The case hasn't taken place yet. You'd have to have had your head pretty thoroughly buried in the sand not to be aware of what he attempted to do.
Pretty sure I know as much as you about what happened. I don't understand.
gregs656 said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Good question. Truthfully, I'm not sure. I remember the "lock her up" chants, which is definitely part of the same problem, so it clearly cuts both ways. But I think, either way, it is dangerous.
The judicial system is political in the US. Trump appointees have successfully shielded him in the past.
I think there are a lot of people motivated to demonstrate there are still checks and balances in the US. Maybe not enough of them though.
I don’t agree, at all, that everything against him is entirely political though.
tamore said:
joined trump, sorry, truth social just to have a look at what it's about. crikey, that's the epitome of an echo chamber.
I did the same some months ago. Managed to get a brief ban recently (no idea which of my anti-Trump tweets got him upset!)….….but!
I have noticed a change.
Nothing scientific about my analysis…but when I first joined & trawled a few Trump posts, it felt like wall-to-wall sycophants backing the tangerine turd.
More recently, I am noticing more people striking back at his nonsense.
Like I say, nothing scientific, but it feels like part of the tide is turning.
EddieSteadyGo said:
but at the same time you are also concerned about weaponisation of the US justice process (as an example)
This is weak. Weaponisation? Please. Which of the 91 felonies he's been charged with should he get away with? All of them? Or just some? Oh wait I forgot, Eddie has seen all the evidence and knows it's a stitch up.
Enlightened Centrists.... I have another word for that.
dobbo_ said:
This is weak. Weaponisation? Please. Which of the 91 felonies he's been charged with should he get away with? All of them? Or just some?
Oh wait I forgot, Eddie has seen all the evidence and knows it's a stitch up.
Enlightened Centrists.... I have another word for that.
This is poor. Where is dobbo_unleashed!?Oh wait I forgot, Eddie has seen all the evidence and knows it's a stitch up.
Enlightened Centrists.... I have another word for that.
EddieSteadyGo said:
LF5335 said:
Sorry, but that is MAGA pro-Trump nonsense. Trump has committed a load of crimes and civil wrongs. He needs to be tried in court for all of them. He shouldn’t get a free pass, because he’s making a half arsed attempt to save his skin by running for the Presidency again. If anything, he should be made even more visibly accountable.
If he wriggles his way out of any / all of them then the legal system is the problem. It isn’t political in any sense whatsoever, other than what Trump is desperately claiming.
Oh, and I still think he’s going to get away with all of it in terms of there being no impact at all on him before the election.
"It isn’t political in any sense whatsoever"... you need to do more research... specifically the statements from those who have been ensuring the cases are prosecuted in the way they are.If he wriggles his way out of any / all of them then the legal system is the problem. It isn’t political in any sense whatsoever, other than what Trump is desperately claiming.
Oh, and I still think he’s going to get away with all of it in terms of there being no impact at all on him before the election.
As I say, if you want to turn a blind eye, I can't help you. That is NOT to say I think Trump is a 'good guy' or a good President or a moral person. But I think most people (who are more neutral than most contributors to this thread) will realise what a dangerous road they are on.
The fact he keeps bleating about it being unfair is more evidence that he did it. The fact he seems to kick the can down the road with relative ease is evidence that the whole system is flawed and he is abusing it.
There is no dangerous road. The most dangerous political road I can see currently is the UK Rwanda policy where the government have decided that they can write anything down and it automatically becomes law and true.
EddieSteadyGo said:
mikef said:
Frankly I don’t care if it’s the Ninja frickin’ Turtles taking him down. Anyone that can make this corrupt, cheating, lying, thieving, obnoxious criminal suffer is good by me
At least you are honest (and direct) about it. If/when he wins, just don't be surprised when he does exactly the same thing against his opponents. Perhaps instead of continuously going down the rabbit hole of extreme right wing maga commentators, you should listen to the evidence.
Still one less Eddie - you know The Gateway Pundit has filed for bankruptcy right? The site that pushed all trumps faked and debunked election fraud lies.
The site that was sued by Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Shaye Moss for their part in their harressment.
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 25th April 06:24
paulguitar said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
paulguitar said:
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Have you forgotten/overlooked, as just one example, that this fellow tried to end the democratic process in the US?
Which court concluded that?Have you forgotten/overlooked, as just one example, that this fellow tried to end the democratic process in the US?
EddieSteadyGo said:
paulguitar said:
The case hasn't taken place yet. You'd have to have had your head pretty thoroughly buried in the sand not to be aware of what he attempted to do.
Pretty sure I can match you in terms of knowledge about what happened. It's why trump is such a successful conman, some people know they are being conned but refuse to accept it, excusing him using wilder and wilder excuses.
Usually as a distraction when trump is in some sort of trouble, when things are looking bad. Eddie is a past maser at this, trying to argue a really monor point, when something massive is happening elsewhere.
Such as Pecker ripping apart trumps defence. Such as trumps lawyer Blanche in his opening statement says they will deny the hush money payment was reimbursed to Story - direct opposite of what Eddie claimed trump would do, that he would admit the payment and therefore ruin the prosecutions case.
They have Weisselberg get Cohen to take the bank records from the company he set up to make the payment, showing the payment, with Weisselbergs wring and signature on it, showing the money reimbursed, how much was reimbursed to cover the 50% tax, how much was cohens 'legal fee's
But Eddie knows better...
It's becoming a regular thing, Eddies distraction attempts
More indictments for fake electors scheme now
Arizona AG Kris Mayes announces the State Grand Jury has returned indictments in the state's 2020 fake electors scheme.
The following individuals are named as defendants, per the AG: Kelli Ward, Tyler Bowyer, Nancy Cottle, Jacob Hoffman, Anthony Kern, James Lamon, Robert Montgomery, Samuel Moorhead, Lorraine Pellegrino, Gregory Safsten, and Michael Ward.
Charges include fraud, forgery, and conspiracy – class 2, 4, and 5 felonies.
Also there are redacted names which have also been indcited which WP have claimed are
Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, John Eastman, Christina Bobb, Boris Epshteyn, and Mike Roman.
The indictment also lists Trump as "Unindicted Coconspirator 1."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tru...
Edit: Oh Lordy there are tapes. They filmed themselves, so sure were they that trump would win
https://twitter.com/i/status/1783322872464695788
Arizona AG Kris Mayes announces the State Grand Jury has returned indictments in the state's 2020 fake electors scheme.
The following individuals are named as defendants, per the AG: Kelli Ward, Tyler Bowyer, Nancy Cottle, Jacob Hoffman, Anthony Kern, James Lamon, Robert Montgomery, Samuel Moorhead, Lorraine Pellegrino, Gregory Safsten, and Michael Ward.
Charges include fraud, forgery, and conspiracy – class 2, 4, and 5 felonies.
Also there are redacted names which have also been indcited which WP have claimed are
Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, John Eastman, Christina Bobb, Boris Epshteyn, and Mike Roman.
The indictment also lists Trump as "Unindicted Coconspirator 1."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tru...
Edit: Oh Lordy there are tapes. They filmed themselves, so sure were they that trump would win
https://twitter.com/i/status/1783322872464695788
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 25th April 06:48
Spot who's missing from the indictments - Cheesebro, so he's turned evidence against others again like he has int he other fake electors cases.
However, he's sailing a fine line having been found to have made false statements to state prosecutors in Michigan and Nevada while feigning cooperation with their respective criminal investigations of false electors in Georgia...
We know he's talked to Jack Smiths prosecutors.
However, he's sailing a fine line having been found to have made false statements to state prosecutors in Michigan and Nevada while feigning cooperation with their respective criminal investigations of false electors in Georgia...
We know he's talked to Jack Smiths prosecutors.
LOL,
trump denying he ever planted fake stories about Cruz and his father, yet we now have evidence in court thats exactly what he did
https://twitter.com/i/status/1783298204777279681
Entered into evidence, and many many more stories team trump wanted published
trump denying he ever planted fake stories about Cruz and his father, yet we now have evidence in court thats exactly what he did
https://twitter.com/i/status/1783298204777279681
Entered into evidence, and many many more stories team trump wanted published
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 25th April 06:53
Meanwhile Gaetz is claiming trump will offer pardons and money settlements to the violent magamob members convicted and in jail.
Surely Gaetz knows better, having tried and failed to get an all encompassing pardon from trump in 2020. Perhaps he thinks the ethics committee is getting too close and wants it now so trump is his best hope?
Surely Gaetz knows better, having tried and failed to get an all encompassing pardon from trump in 2020. Perhaps he thinks the ethics committee is getting too close and wants it now so trump is his best hope?
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