Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

Wednesday 24th April

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Support for Reform has doubled to 12% in the last year. Their support in 2029 based on this trend will be 192% of the electorate.

Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!

3,983 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Support for Reform has doubled to 12% in the last year. Their support in 2029 based on this trend will be 192% of the electorate.

Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!

The hilarity of thinking that a party whose entire existence is aimed at tapping into angry old white voters could somehow suddenly move beyond this base.

smn159

12,711 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Support for Reform has doubled to 12% in the last year. Their support in 2029 based on this trend will be 192% of the electorate.

Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!

The hilarity of thinking that a party whose entire existence is aimed at tapping into angry old white voters could somehow suddenly move beyond this base.

Quite. The country as a whole is pretty tolerant and welcoming of other cultures. Reform targets the few percent who are not - as did UKIP / BNP / National Front and all of the rest before them.It's pretty much the same group of people as well, even if Tice and Farage try to put an 'acceptable' face to them.

Gerradi

1,541 posts

121 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

The hilarity of thinking that a party whose entire existence is aimed at tapping into angry old white voters could somehow suddenly move beyond this base.

Are you talking about MAGA, oh no sorry...

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Killboy said:

So, let me get this right.

People voting for Labour are "f

kwits", because while Labour has at least some substance in their manifesto they have a poor track record from ages ago.

But people voting for a party with meaningless manifestos that do not need to hold up scrutiny should not be considered just a little bit dim - because if they got in they'd somehow figure it out?

rofl

Reform U.K. will not form a Government this time around, we know this. However, the polling stats, such as they are, indicate a steady upward interest in Reform U.K. Being how poor their proposals are in their opponents view it really does demonstrate how poor the two major Parties offerings are. Labour have had years to form some interesting and dynamic proposals, and yet it seems their cupboard is bare. It really feels like a case of ‘we are not quite as poor as Tory’.
Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Reform could easily end up without a single seat, based on current projections. How will they build a base from that?

The same way as building any new brand.

They've been around in various forms, peddling the same old tosh, for years now. And it's taken an absolute collapse of Tory support to even get them to more than 10% of the vote, which still wouldn't guarantee them a single seat. This is just nonsense.

bitchstewie

51,393 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th April

Put a number on it Cranked how many seats do you think they'll have come the General Election?

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Killboy said:

So, let me get this right.

People voting for Labour are "f

kwits", because while Labour has at least some substance in their manifesto they have a poor track record from ages ago.

But people voting for a party with meaningless manifestos that do not need to hold up scrutiny should not be considered just a little bit dim - because if they got in they'd somehow figure it out?

rofl

Reform U.K. will not form a Government this time around, we know this. However, the polling stats, such as they are, indicate a steady upward interest in Reform U.K. Being how poor their proposals are in their opponents view it really does demonstrate how poor the two major Parties offerings are. Labour have had years to form some interesting and dynamic proposals, and yet it seems their cupboard is bare. It really feels like a case of ‘we are not quite as poor as Tory’.
Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Reform could easily end up without a single seat, based on current projections. How will they build a base from that?

The same way as building any new brand.

They've been around in various forms, peddling the same old tosh, for years now. And it's taken an absolute collapse of Tory support to even get them to more than 10% of the vote, which still wouldn't guarantee them a single seat. This is just nonsense.

And that same Tory support collapse is the only reason Labour may win the next G.E.

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

abzmike

8,405 posts

107 months

Wednesday 24th April

crankedup5 said:

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

Mr Habib appears in an interview virtually every day... Ms Hartley-Brewer is hardly a hostile interviewer for him. He has a smooth line of response and is never caught for words. He was very deliberate:

Julia Hartley Brewer, "You would leave asylum seekers to drown in the channel?"

Ben Habib, "Absolutely"

3,983 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Killboy said:

So, let me get this right.

People voting for Labour are "f

kwits", because while Labour has at least some substance in their manifesto they have a poor track record from ages ago.

But people voting for a party with meaningless manifestos that do not need to hold up scrutiny should not be considered just a little bit dim - because if they got in they'd somehow figure it out?

rofl

Reform U.K. will not form a Government this time around, we know this. However, the polling stats, such as they are, indicate a steady upward interest in Reform U.K. Being how poor their proposals are in their opponents view it really does demonstrate how poor the two major Parties offerings are. Labour have had years to form some interesting and dynamic proposals, and yet it seems their cupboard is bare. It really feels like a case of ‘we are not quite as poor as Tory’.
Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Reform could easily end up without a single seat, based on current projections. How will they build a base from that?

The same way as building any new brand.

They've been around in various forms, peddling the same old tosh, for years now. And it's taken an absolute collapse of Tory support to even get them to more than 10% of the vote, which still wouldn't guarantee them a single seat. This is just nonsense.

And that same Tory support collapse is the only reason Labour may win the next G.E.

No idea what point you're making here, but that doesn't seem an unusual response to your posts.

3,983 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April

crankedup5 said:

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

Comical Ali strikes again. It gets better.

3,983 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April

abzmike said:

crankedup5 said:

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

Mr Habib appears in an interview virtually every day... Ms Hartley-Brewer is hardly a hostile interviewer for him. He has a smooth line of response and is never caught for words. He was very deliberate:

Julia Hartley Brewer, "You would leave asylum seekers to drown in the channel?"

Ben Habib, "Absolutely"

That's a toxic misrepresentation according to Comical Ali over there.

bitchstewie

51,393 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th April

crankedup5 said:

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

So either TalkTV put a deep fake video out of an interview with the Co-Deputy Leader of Reform UK in which he said he'd be fine letting migrants drown in the channel.

or

The Co-Deputy Leader of Reform UK really is fine with letting migrants drown in the channel.

Which of those do you think is more likely Cranked? scratchchin

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

S600BSB said:

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Never say never, once the younger generation, those that haven’t lived through a Labour Government cycle, witness the complete lash up that the Labour loonies inflict upon the Country they will need a new Party to entrust, step forward Reform UK

Delusional.

BNP / UKIP / Reform / Brexit Party or whatever they call themselves appeal to a specific demographic only

Fortunately youngsters aren’t attracted to the far right loons in the same way the old boys seem to be.

I’m not sure what political party you refer to, Reform U.K. is not. Far Right.

You're quite hilarious. I like you. You remind me of Comical Ali during the Iraq War.

Ah! reduced yourself to childish comments now, how very predictable.

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Dave200 said:

crankedup5 said:

Killboy said:

So, let me get this right.

People voting for Labour are "f

kwits", because while Labour has at least some substance in their manifesto they have a poor track record from ages ago.

But people voting for a party with meaningless manifestos that do not need to hold up scrutiny should not be considered just a little bit dim - because if they got in they'd somehow figure it out?

rofl

Reform U.K. will not form a Government this time around, we know this. However, the polling stats, such as they are, indicate a steady upward interest in Reform U.K. Being how poor their proposals are in their opponents view it really does demonstrate how poor the two major Parties offerings are. Labour have had years to form some interesting and dynamic proposals, and yet it seems their cupboard is bare. It really feels like a case of ‘we are not quite as poor as Tory’.
Reform U.K. will build a base from 2024 ready for 2029-30.

Reform could easily end up without a single seat, based on current projections. How will they build a base from that?

The same way as building any new brand.

They've been around in various forms, peddling the same old tosh, for years now. And it's taken an absolute collapse of Tory support to even get them to more than 10% of the vote, which still wouldn't guarantee them a single seat. This is just nonsense.

And that same Tory support collapse is the only reason Labour may win the next G.E.

No idea what point you're making here, but that doesn't seem an unusual response to your posts.

It’s simple enough if you give. it a moments thought. Go on, give it a try!!

hidetheelephants

24,463 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th April

abzmike said:

Mr Habib appears in an interview virtually every day... Ms Hartley-Brewer is hardly a hostile interviewer for him. He has a smooth line of response and is never caught for words. He was very deliberate:

Julia Hartley Brewer, "You would leave asylum seekers to drown in the channel?"

Ben Habib, "Absolutely"

He's on record that he'd break the law and presumably expect the RNLI or others to break the law? At least they're saying the ghastly bits out loud I suppose.

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April

b

hstewie said:

crankedup5 said:

QuartzDad said:

crankedup5 said:

I was waiting to hear / read of the actual input from the interview, rather than the toxic misrepresentations presented earlier.

Clip is 5 minutes long.

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1782712172256096261

Very poor questioning and talking over the guest whilst he was attempting to answer. Very poor presentation of non answers and disappointing response.They will need to do far better that. It almost has me questioning is this a deep fake clip, it feels and sounds like it.

So either TalkTV put a deep fake video out of an interview with the Co-Deputy Leader of Reform UK in which he said he'd be fine letting migrants drown in the channel.

or

The Co-Deputy Leader of Reform UK really is fine with letting migrants drown in the channel.

Which of those do you think is more likely Cranked? scratchchin

I do not support any notion of letting people drown anywhere or at any time. I am shocked at his response tbh.

smn159

12,711 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April

hidetheelephants said:

abzmike said:

Mr Habib appears in an interview virtually every day... Ms Hartley-Brewer is hardly a hostile interviewer for him. He has a smooth line of response and is never caught for words. He was very deliberate:

Julia Hartley Brewer, "You would leave asylum seekers to drown in the channel?"

Ben Habib, "Absolutely"

He's on record that he'd break the law and presumably expect the RNLI or others to break the law? At least they're saying the ghastly bits out loud I suppose.

Farage has form with the RNLI, demonstrating what a t

t he is by calling the volunteers who risk their lives to save others a 'migrant taxi service'

Fortunately saner people do not buy into this far right rhetoric, resulting in a huge spike in RNLI donations by the silent majority

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/rnli...

e600

1,328 posts

153 months

Wednesday 24th April

It will be interesting to see how many Tory seats are lost due to people voting Reform. Normally post election analysis shows such breakdowns.

Ie if the Reform votes were added to the Tory candidate would he have been elected.

MiniMan64

16,941 posts

191 months