Angela Rayner to face investigation?
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Al Gorithum said:
Vanden Saab said:
Al Gorithum said:
Deesee said:
Daily Telegraph.
Ah that famous arbiter of fairness, truth and impartiality. Not.
FiF said:
Presumably such as the Guardian can be taken as an arbiter of fairness, truth and impartiality?
They all have agendas and favoured narratives which slant the reporting and editorial stance.
One has to understand that, read multiple sources with that in mind. Hint also if you don't read sources with which you disagree then you are fundamentally doing it incorrectly. Multiple sources including not just UK based is the best way.
Cue accusations of "whataboutism" " oh look a squirrel" and all the other wibble that certain travellers like to throw around.
I once watched a Q&A with Condoleeza Rice and she was asked how she could stay so optimistic and cheerful about everything. She said the first thing she does every day is find a columnist with an opinion that will make her really mad and read what they have to say before reading things she agrees with. Good advice IMO.They all have agendas and favoured narratives which slant the reporting and editorial stance.
One has to understand that, read multiple sources with that in mind. Hint also if you don't read sources with which you disagree then you are fundamentally doing it incorrectly. Multiple sources including not just UK based is the best way.
Cue accusations of "whataboutism" " oh look a squirrel" and all the other wibble that certain travellers like to throw around.
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Tankrizzo said:
The absolutely barmy thing about that Telegraph article is that they've assigned at least a dozen officers to the Rayner case.
You mean they're assigning a lot of resources to their investigation? Excellent. I look forward to seeing what facts they uncover.Sway said:
Al Gorithum said:
Deesee said:
Daily Telegraph.
Ah that famous arbiter of fairness, truth and impartiality. Not.It's a fair position. A married couple can only have one primary residence between them. She's stated very clearly that was her house, so no CGT payable.
That does mean that the sale of his house must therefore have not been the primary residence, therefore very likely CGT due.
98elise said:
Sway said:
Al Gorithum said:
Deesee said:
Daily Telegraph.
Ah that famous arbiter of fairness, truth and impartiality. Not.It's a fair position. A married couple can only have one primary residence between them. She's stated very clearly that was her house, so no CGT payable.
That does mean that the sale of his house must therefore have not been the primary residence, therefore very likely CGT due.
Biggy Stardust said:
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Tankrizzo said:
The absolutely barmy thing about that Telegraph article is that they've assigned at least a dozen officers to the Rayner case.
You mean they're assigning a lot of resources to their investigation? Excellent. I look forward to seeing what facts they uncover.You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
heebeegeetee said:
Because there simply isn't the resources to go around investigating people to see if they've broken any laws. Because we can't get known crimes investigated, never mind a dozen coppers investigating an opposition MP to see if any crimes have been committed. Because there are known major issues going on, such as profound corruption resulting in hundreds of post masters having lives destroyed, millions of pounds taken in PPE scandals, blood products tested on children, all in the conspicuous absences of dozens of coppers, or any investigation at all.
You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
Yup - its nearly 12 months since my daughter and two other girls were victims of a sex crime. The police still haven't looked at the camera the accused used to take secret photos even though they have had it since the complaint was made. No resource apparently.You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Tankrizzo said:
The absolutely barmy thing about that Telegraph article is that they've assigned at least a dozen officers to the Rayner case.
You mean they're assigning a lot of resources to their investigation? Excellent. I look forward to seeing what facts they uncover.You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
crankedup5 said:
It’s important that this issue is investigated and outcomes made public. This is a senior politician that could be Deputy Prime Minister later this year. Almost certainly she will not want allegations hanging over her head anymore than the public. It’s a matter of trust and transparency.
Its important, I agree. But it doesn't need that many people to investigate it.heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Tankrizzo said:
The absolutely barmy thing about that Telegraph article is that they've assigned at least a dozen officers to the Rayner case.
You mean they're assigning a lot of resources to their investigation? Excellent. I look forward to seeing what facts they uncover.You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
When any reasonable claims are made regarding politically engaged people acting criminally, there's always a heightened response.
She's also not just an "opposition MP". She's deputy PM, in an election year, where she's likely to hold a significant office in government. The fact there's not just one question, but many, also adds to the complexity and need for decent resourcing so there's no delays.
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