Angela Rayner to face investigation?

Angela Rayner to face investigation?

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S600BSB

4,672 posts

107 months

Wednesday 24th April
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xstian said:
heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
macron said:
Rufus Stone said:
Angie is doing PMQ's today apparently.
"Dowden says it is a pleasure to be facing Rayner again at PMQs. Any more sessions like this and she will be claiming this is her primary residence."
Funny quip, she didn’t look amused. laugh
I thought she did.
It’s bazaar isn’t it, I’m sure some on here must watch PMQ through a Daily Mail filter or something. She made him look a fool, he had his prepared jokes, she got in first and he had nothing.

He also sounded like school boy whose plums hadn’t dropped yet, what was that all about.
True, but Dowden is poor.

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Wednesday 24th April
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heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
I thought the opposite to you. She was certainly rattled
Only if viewed through a Daily Mail-esque filter. For a woman who used to be a cleaner, I think she does really well.

And I find it odd that anyone would refer to speaking after the pantomime performances of Bojo.
It’s widely acknowledged that P.M. questions is pantomime time, been like this for years and years.

What are you saying now, you don’t expect cleaners to be able to read a script, bit derogatory.

Edited by crankedup5 on Wednesday 24th April 20:06

Legacywr

12,147 posts

189 months

Wednesday 24th April
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xstian said:
heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
macron said:
Rufus Stone said:
Angie is doing PMQ's today apparently.
"Dowden says it is a pleasure to be facing Rayner again at PMQs. Any more sessions like this and she will be claiming this is her primary residence."
Funny quip, she didn’t look amused. laugh
I thought she did.
It’s bazaar isn’t it, I’m sure some on here must watch PMQ through a Daily Mail filter or something. She made him look a fool, he had his prepared jokes, she got in first and he had nothing.

He also sounded like school boy whose plums hadn’t dropped yet, what was that all about.
You must have watched it on The Guardian channel?

xstian

1,973 posts

147 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Legacywr said:
xstian said:
heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
macron said:
Rufus Stone said:
Angie is doing PMQ's today apparently.
"Dowden says it is a pleasure to be facing Rayner again at PMQs. Any more sessions like this and she will be claiming this is her primary residence."
Funny quip, she didn’t look amused. laugh
I thought she did.
It’s bazaar isn’t it, I’m sure some on here must watch PMQ through a Daily Mail filter or something. She made him look a fool, he had his prepared jokes, she got in first and he had nothing.

He also sounded like school boy whose plums hadn’t dropped yet, what was that all about.
You must have watched it on The Guardian channel?
A fairly predictable retort. Are you Oliver Dowden by any chance?

Legacywr

12,147 posts

189 months

Wednesday 24th April
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xstian said:
A fairly predictable retort. Are you Oliver Dowden by any chance?
It was the right reply…

Halmyre

11,214 posts

140 months

Thursday 25th April
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Sway said:
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
heebeegeetee said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Tankrizzo said:
The absolutely barmy thing about that Telegraph article is that they've assigned at least a dozen officers to the Rayner case.
You mean they're assigning a lot of resources to their investigation? Excellent. I look forward to seeing what facts they uncover.
Seriously?
Yes- why would you or anyone else want the facts suppressed?
Because there simply isn't the resources to go around investigating people to see if they've broken any laws. Because we can't get known crimes investigated, never mind a dozen coppers investigating an opposition MP to see if any crimes have been committed. Because there are known major issues going on, such as profound corruption resulting in hundreds of post masters having lives destroyed, millions of pounds taken in PPE scandals, blood products tested on children, all in the conspicuous absences of dozens of coppers, or any investigation at all.

You or I could have a £50k car stolen that could be used in crime and could do a lot of harm and we'd get a crime number, but an opposition MP dodging £1500 of tax 10 years ago, or using an address on an electoral roll that was actually a mile away, gets investigated by a dozen coppers. Engaging a dozen coppers in near non-crimes is certainly a way of supressing facts on real crime.
It's being controlled and investigated by the Greater Manchester Police. Hardly a den of Tory influence and suppression.

When any reasonable claims are made regarding politically engaged people acting criminally, there's always a heightened response.

She's also not just an "opposition MP". She's deputy PM, in an election year, where she's likely to hold a significant office in government. The fact there's not just one question, but many, also adds to the complexity and need for decent resourcing so there's no delays.
According to Private Eye, the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester, Stephen Watson, was a speaker at the last Tory conference, addressing a fringe meeting of the Freedom Society.

Watson has been suggested by various back-benchers as a suitable Metropolitan Police CC; suggesting his 'robust' approach would replace the current 'woke, weak, policing'. One of those back-benchers is James Daly, the same James Daly who wrote to Watson encouraging him to reopen the Rayner investigation.

Amateurish

7,755 posts

223 months

Friday 26th April
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"Renovations add a new dimension to Angela Rayner’s council house furore"

"Angela Rayner’s renovations to her former council house can be revealed as its new owners say they still receive her post nearly a decade after she left.

The deputy Labour leader enlarged her kitchen, installed a new fireplace and replaced windows in refurbishments which could offset her capital gains bill, planning documents seen by The Times show."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-c...

Rufus Stone

6,279 posts

57 months

Friday 26th April
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Amateurish said:
"Renovations add a new dimension to Angela Rayner’s council house furore"

"Angela Rayner’s renovations to her former council house can be revealed as its new owners say they still receive her post nearly a decade after she left.

The deputy Labour leader enlarged her kitchen, installed a new fireplace and replaced windows in refurbishments which could offset her capital gains bill, planning documents seen by The Times show."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-c...
This is old news.

Pan Pan Pan

9,928 posts

112 months

Saturday 27th April
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xstian said:
Legacywr said:
xstian said:
heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
macron said:
Rufus Stone said:
Angie is doing PMQ's today apparently.
"Dowden says it is a pleasure to be facing Rayner again at PMQs. Any more sessions like this and she will be claiming this is her primary residence."
Funny quip, she didn’t look amused. laugh
I thought she did.
It’s bazaar isn’t it, I’m sure some on here must watch PMQ through a Daily Mail filter or something. She made him look a fool, he had his prepared jokes, she got in first and he had nothing.

He also sounded like school boy whose plums hadn’t dropped yet, what was that all about.
You must have watched it on The Guardian channel?
A fairly predictable retort. Are you Oliver Dowden by any chance?
What has a series of shops in an oriental country, got to do with anything?

sugerbear

4,056 posts

159 months

Saturday 27th April
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Rufus Stone said:
Amateurish said:
"Renovations add a new dimension to Angela Rayner’s council house furore"

"Angela Rayner’s renovations to her former council house can be revealed as its new owners say they still receive her post nearly a decade after she left.

The deputy Labour leader enlarged her kitchen, installed a new fireplace and replaced windows in refurbishments which could offset her capital gains bill, planning documents seen by The Times show."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-c...
This is old news.
Wont be long until the usual crowd pile in saying the renovations were fake or overpriced or both.

W124

1,544 posts

139 months

Saturday 27th April
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It’s not worked. Attacking Raynor. It’s gone wrong and they should leave it.

It’s a bit like Labour under Corbyn going at Boris. People feel some odd affinity with a positive national stereotype. ‘Fierce Northern Woman’ is one of those. ‘Daft Posh Bloke’ is another. They just made him stronger, as everybody forgives Mr Toad. Even though Toad is an utter bd.

I quite like Raynor - but I think, much like Boris, power will overwhelm her.

Corbyn, by the way, was a negative national stereotype. ‘Enraged sociology teacher’ - doesn’t fly.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Saturday 27th April
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sugerbear said:
Wont be long until the usual crowd pile in saying the renovations were fake or overpriced or both.
Either she was living there so no CGT was due because it was her primary residence (as she originally insisted) or she didn't live there and no CGT is due because she renovated. Which is it?

Mr Penguin

1,242 posts

40 months

Saturday 27th April
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sugerbear said:
Wont be long until the usual crowd pile in saying the renovations were fake or overpriced or both.
Depends on what the kitchen work was. It looks like a cheap kitchen and it was 10-15 years ago but if extending it needed knocking through a supporting wall plus adjusting pipes then it could easily tip it over. Windows don't cost that much and fireplaces are quite cheap.

If she is going to rely on spending tens of thousands of pounds on renovations then why not just say that initially and get rid of the story? Wanting a bigger kitchen isn't newsworthy at all.

Evanivitch

20,135 posts

123 months

Saturday 27th April
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Oakey said:
sugerbear said:
Wont be long until the usual crowd pile in saying the renovations were fake or overpriced or both.
Either she was living there so no CGT was due because it was her primary residence (as she originally insisted) or she didn't live there and no CGT is due because she renovated. Which is it?
Either way, nothing owed.

pork911

7,170 posts

184 months

Saturday 27th April
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From the rishi thread


redback911 said:
The Information Commissioner Office (ICO) has ordered the Government to reveal details of Rishi's dealings with the hedge fund ("Theleme") he founded, as the hedge fund originally made an investment in Moderna of $500m when the company was valued at $7bn (today worth $41bn).

Government ordered to disclose Sunak’s hedge fund emails
https://goodlawproject.org/government-ordered-to-d...

FOI Decision Notice
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-7XawoJ2bsBsiSZ6c...

Moderna went on to win various UK Government contracts for its Covid Vaccine. There are various messages between Sunak (as Chancellor) and Theleme that relate to Thelma, Moderna and the UK vaccine procurement. The Good Law Project requested copies but were denied. The ICO have said they must disclose them.

The messages may be entirely innocent... But. Why initially try to block them being disclosed.

CoolHands

18,683 posts

196 months

Saturday 27th April
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pork911 said:
Where it belongs. Why is it here?

blueg33

35,981 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th April
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CoolHands said:
pork911 said:
Where it belongs. Why is it here?
By way of comparison perhaps?

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th April
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sugerbear said:
Wont be long until the usual crowd pile in saying the renovations were fake or overpriced or both.
Or that it’s peculiar it’s taking her this long to build out a backstory…..,



President Merkin

3,045 posts

20 months

Sunday 28th April
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By that you actually mean she's stated her position repeatedly but hasn't shared the details with you, the end of level boss.


This thread is delicious, the sheer amount of frothing righteousness, smashing into the rocks of reality every day is a sight to behold. Harry, Dan, Guido, all burning the candle at both ends to propel this nothingburger into the public consciousness & yet it just won't do what they want. I can smell the disappointment from here. Look at it this way lads, it's a handy warm up for the GE, an early bird ticket to the theatre of crushed dreams.

119

6,371 posts

37 months

Sunday 28th April
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President Merkin said:
By that you actually mean she's stated her position repeatedly but hasn't shared the details with you, the end of level boss.


This thread is delicious, the sheer amount of frothing righteousness, smashing into the rocks of reality every day is a sight to behold. Harry, Dan, Guido, all burning the candle at both ends to propel this nothingburger into the public consciousness & yet it just won't do what they want. I can smell the disappointment from here. Look at it this way lads, it's a handy warm up for the GE, an early bird ticket to the theatre of crushed dreams.
How ironic.