UFOs Linked to Cattle and Sheep Mutilation
Discussion
Marf said:
RegMolehusband said:
Marf said:
Watched it twice. What does it do at 2:15? Seems to just be sitting there?
the lights rotate clockwiese in a synchronised manner as though connected to a solid object. 
Just looked to me like the camera was refocussing hence the lights appearing to move.
These videos are (sometimes) interesting to watch, but how come they never have any real substance? It's always either dark and just pinpricks of light (which doesn't really prove anything at all - remember the flares on parachutes 'UFO'?), or the camerawork is atrocious with blurry images.
The video above with the objects moving about slowly, there are just too many possibilities to consider before alien spacecraft, and people rarely take three dimensions into consideration when they see things 'moving up and down slowly'.
Edit 'cos I missed a word.
The video above with the objects moving about slowly, there are just too many possibilities to consider before alien spacecraft, and people rarely take three dimensions into consideration when they see things 'moving up and down slowly'.
Edit 'cos I missed a word.
Edited by cottonfoo on Friday 9th April 10:46
RegMolehusband said:
Oh come off it Graham, jets make very loud noises, move across the sky rapidly and are soon gone.
Start of film, jets coming towards you. One breaks high and right (to see if he's really alone.) The Mig has missile lock, so he bugs out - he selects Zone 5, and extends.The jets still coming towards you, then slowly turn left, so they are traveling to the right on camera, in 3x2 looking formation. They reform into a diamond like 1,2,2,1 type formation. 2.27 - clearly shows 6 standard looking planes, illuminated at the front, with slight reflections on the wingtips. There is no noise, but there is no real audio feed on that video either. not even any city / road noise, from the road you can see when he zooms out. Are they indoors, perhaps?
I may well be wrong (and probably am), but is my version more plasuible than "aliens came from lightyears away, to do a bad, slow impression of the red arrows for about 4 minutes, before going home again, sans encore. They were upset by the lack of applause, so bum-cored a sheep, and stole a horve's face to put on their wall back home"?
I have to say, I struggle with the idea that alien intelligence is capable of flinging itself lightyears across the galaxy, but remains ignorant of technology like MRI scans which would obviate the need for messy and obvious livestock mutilations (assuming the mutilations are conducted for "research purposes", of course).
I suspect that any intelligent alien life capable of getting here would be steering well clear of us; we are unpredictable, irascible, violent, acquisitive and generally untrustworthy apes, and I feel that any beings from a civilisation with interstellar reach would want no part of us. Indeed, give it enough time and we are likely to be the ones invading other planets for our own nefarious ends...
I suspect that any intelligent alien life capable of getting here would be steering well clear of us; we are unpredictable, irascible, violent, acquisitive and generally untrustworthy apes, and I feel that any beings from a civilisation with interstellar reach would want no part of us. Indeed, give it enough time and we are likely to be the ones invading other planets for our own nefarious ends...
"Alright, time to do the intelligence test on.. What's this planet called again?"
"Earth, sir"
"Yeah, Earth. Ok, drop the cow."
"Initiating drop....dropped."
"Ok, now scan the surface for conversation relating to the cow we just dropped. What are peoples conclusions?"
"67% that are talking about it have mentioned aliens, sir."
"Ok, this race is obviously void of anything even resembling logic if their first response to a dropped cow is that aliens did it. They think that aliens who had mastered faster than light travel would be toying around with cows?! Bah.
"In their defence, sir, we did just drop the cow.."
"Earth, sir"
"Yeah, Earth. Ok, drop the cow."
"Initiating drop....dropped."
"Ok, now scan the surface for conversation relating to the cow we just dropped. What are peoples conclusions?"
"67% that are talking about it have mentioned aliens, sir."
"Ok, this race is obviously void of anything even resembling logic if their first response to a dropped cow is that aliens did it. They think that aliens who had mastered faster than light travel would be toying around with cows?! Bah.
"In their defence, sir, we did just drop the cow.."
Frankeh said:
"Alright, time to do the intelligence test on.. What's this planet called again?"
"Earth, sir"
"Yeah, Earth. Ok, drop the cow."
"Initiating drop....dropped."
"Ok, now scan the surface for conversation relating to the cow we just dropped. What are peoples conclusions?"
"67% that are talking about it have mentioned aliens, sir."
"Ok, this race is obviously void of anything even resembling logic if their first response to a dropped cow is that aliens did it. They think that aliens who had mastered faster than light travel would be toying around with cows?! Bah.
"In their defence, sir, we did just drop the cow.."
"Earth, sir"
"Yeah, Earth. Ok, drop the cow."
"Initiating drop....dropped."
"Ok, now scan the surface for conversation relating to the cow we just dropped. What are peoples conclusions?"
"67% that are talking about it have mentioned aliens, sir."
"Ok, this race is obviously void of anything even resembling logic if their first response to a dropped cow is that aliens did it. They think that aliens who had mastered faster than light travel would be toying around with cows?! Bah.
"In their defence, sir, we did just drop the cow.."
Sorry. Phoenix lights two eh? Probably the same cause as the last. Military playing?
And the one in France. No point of reference (daylight shots) and a film compressed and full of artifacts. On the face of it it looked like it was up a mountain. Not really looked properly.
Teachers report. Must do better.
And the one in France. No point of reference (daylight shots) and a film compressed and full of artifacts. On the face of it it looked like it was up a mountain. Not really looked properly.
Teachers report. Must do better.
I don't think I've dismissed any plausible solutions, I did question GrahamE's jet proposition of those lights over France because they seemed to be moving far too slowly to me. However I appreciated and enjoyed the way he described how it may have been a formation of aircraft (presumably with their landing lights on).
I don't take UFO videos on face value because there are too many CGI hoaxers around nowadays. But I do firmly believe what my mate described and don't think it was "one of ours" and know there have been many thousands of plausible sightings prior to CGI and the hoax mentality, many made by very credible witnesses.
I don't take UFO videos on face value because there are too many CGI hoaxers around nowadays. But I do firmly believe what my mate described and don't think it was "one of ours" and know there have been many thousands of plausible sightings prior to CGI and the hoax mentality, many made by very credible witnesses.
Edited by RegMolehusband on Saturday 10th April 14:08
RegMolehusband said:
"Not really looked properly"
That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
What evidence? What is the thing that you've seen that convinces you that these various UFO's are aliens? That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
hairykrishna said:
RegMolehusband said:
"Not really looked properly"
That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
What evidence? What is the thing that you've seen that convinces you that these various UFO's are aliens? That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
I refer you to Monki’s post above by way of example
“I used to live in a rural village in Powys (near to Welshpool) and I remember that one night there were strange lights in the sky (Three orange balls connected by white lines forming a triangle) that had a very rapid movement.
The next day the local farmer had 3 sheep, 4 cows and a horse dead in his fields and all had various limbs missing but no sign of "attack" other than missing body parts. Again there was no blood and it left the vet a bit puzzled, especially as there had been similar cases on two other farms on the same day. I think in the end they put it down to "vandalism" although there were a lot of unanswered questions.
Was all very odd, but I can see why people are making links considering that there are UFO sightings around the same time as cattle mutilations and both are unexplained phenomena.”
And Dave ST220 above
“Not had chance to read the link but will, before i do i can add that me & two mates witnessed some very strange lights up on the Long Mynd one summers night. Never seen lights like it (FAST moving & changing direction VERY quickly. It was enough to spook my mate & we got the hell out of there quickly!”
And astronaut Gordon Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc
Frankeh said:
The idea that aliens would come all the way to earth then cut out cows anuses amuses me.
Mastered faster than light travel, still not figured out the anus of a cow though.
So close-minded. Has it not occurred to you that these aliens with three eyes at the end of each of their four eye stalks and tentacles might actually find cow anus a delicacy?Mastered faster than light travel, still not figured out the anus of a cow though.
RegMolehusband said:
"Not really looked properly"
That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
Not really, I watched it through, I did not do any more. There is nothing that grabs you by the throat and says "ET!". Like I said Phoenix lights 2. Certainly a possibility. Second one, well, its naff as evidence goes. No where near as good as the Turkey one but then that had more holes than a Swiss cheese convention.That says it all really, sceptics are usually so sceptical that they can't be bothered to look properly at the vast amounts of evidence out there.
Difference is I look at it and think what can cause it, ET groupies look at it and think ET. Mind set is already there. Being a septic I like to think I am open to all eventualities, the groupies only ever see one. Despite others that can provide an explanation.
Where was the French one? Apart from in France.
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