Anyones spouse got an Irish passport?
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Does anyone on here have a spouse who has an Irish (or probably any other EU passport) and who holds a UK passport themselves?
I believe that as a spouse you too can go and live in the EU with your spouse, but are you also entitled to work there?
Also, do you have to actually travel in and out together, or is there a form you can take when travelling alone so you dont get a date stamp of entry into the EU?
Cheers
I believe that as a spouse you too can go and live in the EU with your spouse, but are you also entitled to work there?
Also, do you have to actually travel in and out together, or is there a form you can take when travelling alone so you dont get a date stamp of entry into the EU?
Cheers
Yes, you can work once you have the residence card.
This will stop you being treated as a tourist on entry.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/fa...
This will stop you being treated as a tourist on entry.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/fa...
I have an Irish (and British) passport, but my wife only holds a British passport.
No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
Edited by PF62 on Monday 12th February 19:02
PF62 said:
I have an Irish (and British) passport, but my wife only holds a British passport.
No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
Great info and detail, thank you.No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
Edited by PF62 on Monday 12th February 19:02
I applied in Jan - sent the documents off at the beginning of Feb (after receiving my birth certificate). My Mum was born in Belfast, so I'm entitled to an Irish passport.
20 business days turnaround - they are currently validating my documents.
I applied mainly because I got caught carrying contraband (200 cigarettes over my allowance) from Gib to Spain, and I don't want to risk getting pulled trying to go into Spain on my UK passport. The "case" is still outstanding after 1 year.
BTW - I was the driver of the hire car - the cigs weren't mine!
20 business days turnaround - they are currently validating my documents.
I applied mainly because I got caught carrying contraband (200 cigarettes over my allowance) from Gib to Spain, and I don't want to risk getting pulled trying to go into Spain on my UK passport. The "case" is still outstanding after 1 year.
BTW - I was the driver of the hire car - the cigs weren't mine!
For those who want the gory details on a British / EU married couple traveling to the EU and the 90/180 day rule look at 2.1.2 here -
https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-1...
https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-1...
WhiskyDisco said:
I applied in Jan - sent the documents off at the beginning of Feb (after receiving my birth certificate). My Mum was born in Belfast, so I'm entitled to an Irish passport.
20 business days turnaround - they are currently validating my documents.
I applied mainly because I got caught carrying contraband (200 cigarettes over my allowance) from Gib to Spain, and I don't want to risk getting pulled trying to go into Spain on my UK passport. The "case" is still outstanding after 1 year.
BTW - I was the driver of the hire car - the cigs weren't mine!
WhiskyDisco-We have run into our first hiccup with the application process!20 business days turnaround - they are currently validating my documents.
I applied mainly because I got caught carrying contraband (200 cigarettes over my allowance) from Gib to Spain, and I don't want to risk getting pulled trying to go into Spain on my UK passport. The "case" is still outstanding after 1 year.
BTW - I was the driver of the hire car - the cigs weren't mine!
Wifes father was born in Belfast. We have his birth, marriage and death certificate so ready to go.
First issue-first page on the on line application asks for the County of the parents birth....but there is no option for Belfast in the drop down list.
Did you apply online? If so how did you do it?
Many thanks
quarryman111 said:
Ignore again surely…Belfast/Antrim is in the UK, not Ireland?
Irish citizenship rules relates to the whole of the island of Ireland, so for example those UK citizens born in Northern Ireland can choose if they want to have an Irish passport, and the same applies to citizenship and Irish passports via parent or grandparent.
As can southern Irish.Steviesam said:
WhiskyDisco-We have run into our first hiccup with the application process!
Wifes father was born in Belfast. We have his birth, marriage and death certificate so ready to go.
First issue-first page on the on line application asks for the County of the parents birth....but there is no option for Belfast in the drop down list.
Did you apply online? If so how did you do it?
Many thanks
I think you only need his birth certificate.Wifes father was born in Belfast. We have his birth, marriage and death certificate so ready to go.
First issue-first page on the on line application asks for the County of the parents birth....but there is no option for Belfast in the drop down list.
Did you apply online? If so how did you do it?
Many thanks
PF62 said:
I have an Irish (and British) passport, but my wife only holds a British passport.
No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
You might have just blown my tiny mind. My wife and kids are Scandi's. Didnt know the 90 day thing variation. Its not been an issue hence I never thought to check, but in some way this makes me feel better even if I doubt I will have course to use it.No idea about the work situation because I am beyond that, but for travel, whilst I am in the EU with my wife then the 90/180 day rule doesn’t count for her because it would be an infringement of the EU right to *my* family life and an infringement of *my* freedom of movement.
We don’t have to travel together for that to happen (according to the EU Border Guards manual I have been sad enough to read) but no idea how that would be proved - presumably I would have to show flight history etc. if she was queried as she *does* get a date stamp in her passport but obviously I don’t with my Irish passport - and actually as I have the Irish passport card there is nothing to stamp,
Going forward it is all going to be regulated by ETIAS and EES as she will declare on the ETIAS that she is married to an EU citizen and then EES will track both of us.
We don’t spend more than three months in a single EU country, just a couple of months here and month there and a couple ther, etc, so haven’t had to concern ourselves with residency.
Even though she has a British passport when we travel together she is entitled to accompany me in the shorter ‘non-Britisher’ queue.
One thing important is that *only* applies to those legally married or those in a legally certified civil partnership, and *doesn’t* apply to people simply living as a couple.
Edited by PF62 on Monday 12th February 19:02
Helpful, thanks
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