Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly
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nelly1 said:
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I've lost several good friends and family members to this bd.
I guess all you can do is raise a glass or three to those you've lost and say "Meh! See you soon.".
Carpe Diem. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. No point worrying about it.
Exactly. Something gets us all in the end. Treasure each day you have. You won't get it back.I've lost several good friends and family members to this bd.
I guess all you can do is raise a glass or three to those you've lost and say "Meh! See you soon.".
Carpe Diem. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. No point worrying about it.
Yes, it does seem to be that those who are miserable/horrible people crack on for years (elderly female relative who no-one liked lived to 90 or so - to put her into perspective, she was looked after for 35 years by her son. Her daughter died of cancer and on the day of the funeral she said "I will miss her, she was my favorite child" - that is with the son who has devoted his whole life looking after her sat there too.)
I have another friend who is a carer, she has just had major removals of organs and so on. She also has breast cancer but they had to tackle the other lot first. She is such a lovely, happy person, even now, recovering from this major operation.
Yet there are all too many people who deserve cancer walking around quite happily. Why does it pick on the wrong people!?!?
I have another friend who is a carer, she has just had major removals of organs and so on. She also has breast cancer but they had to tackle the other lot first. She is such a lovely, happy person, even now, recovering from this major operation.
Yet there are all too many people who deserve cancer walking around quite happily. Why does it pick on the wrong people!?!?
Einion Yrth said:
Good grief the level of moderation in this place gets worse and effing worse, morons the lot of 'em. Thoughts are with you Dibble, you seem to have seen more of the vicious bd than any one life should have to.
Back in the health forum. Again. Left hand, meet right hand...Jasandjules said:
Yes, it does seem to be that those who are miserable/horrible people crack on for years
It's funny isn't it.You could argue that because you tend to surround yourself with nice people and people you like, the ones you lose and see suffer from this ish disease and other such nasties are going to be "the good ones" but you look further afield from your friend base and the rule holds true.
In the past 5 years I have lost 2 ex work mates to cancer who I would genuinely class as wonderful people, but I also worked with some nasty pieces of work who just sail along through life without any grazes.
The 3 family members I have lost to cancer were (I know I'm biased) wonderful people, particularly my sister who was selfless, worked as a nurse with old people and really went that extra mile in her job, warm and loving and always the life and soul but that didn't help them against it.
Hoofy said:
Shaw Tarse said:
Hoofy said:
Well, if we are to be flippant about cancer, it's a great way of saving on care home bills! And means you avoid all the fun that dementia brings with it! And chemo's great for weight loss!
Not good for the hair though!Yep..mother at 52, and every one of her siblings (3) . Father at 82, and all of his siblings (4), though they all lived normal lives. innumerable friends. I have spent endless time in hospices, which are oddly enough in my experience cheery places with wonderfully caring staff. My father was very philosophical though. He died in a nursing home. On his last night, he said to to fellow in charge. : " I think it might be tonight, Mike, what do you think?". The owner said", who replied " Well, I'm not a doctor, and not expert enough to give an opinion". My father said " I'n no expert either - I never died before, so you might learn something".
He died that night. I had left him earlier in the evening and the doctor had told me it might be weeks. I was on a plane when it happened, and simply went home, changed and flew back across the Atlantic.
However, one thing is sure...not all cancers are fatal and not all patients have miserable lives. I have several friends who are currently patients, and they are still the same people. It is very sad that people drift away when someone has cancer. I think it is fear of facing the reality of death. Life goes on for cancer patients and the best thing to do is to relate to them in exactly the same way as before the diagnosis, and help when you can. It is a very harsh disease, but I have seen some great nobility and strength of character many a time. I also have some friends who have beaten it.
In the end, we all die, and even if this affliction is made less lethal, there will be something else. There is a brilliant book on cancer called The Emperor of All Maladies which is a very good lay person's read as to the whole area, and the various failures and successes on treating it. A very human book.
He died that night. I had left him earlier in the evening and the doctor had told me it might be weeks. I was on a plane when it happened, and simply went home, changed and flew back across the Atlantic.
However, one thing is sure...not all cancers are fatal and not all patients have miserable lives. I have several friends who are currently patients, and they are still the same people. It is very sad that people drift away when someone has cancer. I think it is fear of facing the reality of death. Life goes on for cancer patients and the best thing to do is to relate to them in exactly the same way as before the diagnosis, and help when you can. It is a very harsh disease, but I have seen some great nobility and strength of character many a time. I also have some friends who have beaten it.
In the end, we all die, and even if this affliction is made less lethal, there will be something else. There is a brilliant book on cancer called The Emperor of All Maladies which is a very good lay person's read as to the whole area, and the various failures and successes on treating it. A very human book.
Shaw Tarse said:
Hoofy said:
Shaw Tarse said:
Hoofy said:
Well, if we are to be flippant about cancer, it's a great way of saving on care home bills! And means you avoid all the fun that dementia brings with it! And chemo's great for weight loss!
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