The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*
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It looks Godawful, but I can deal with it if they're only used when one would be forced by the conditions to run full wets.
At present, if it's wet enough for full wets, the safety car is put out or the race is stopped so we get no racing.
If it's no racing or buckets over the wheels, I'll take buckets.
At present, if it's wet enough for full wets, the safety car is put out or the race is stopped so we get no racing.
If it's no racing or buckets over the wheels, I'll take buckets.
vaud said:
I think they were aware it was complex:
Nikolas Tombazis spoke about the project at the end of 2022. He explained:
"We only think it’s going to be something that gets used on a couple of occasions a year, maybe three, that sort of thing.
"We don’t want it to be that every time there’s a drop of rain, then suddenly you have to fit these things.
"We have done a lot of CFD simulations, because we want to make sure the effect of these devices is relatively small on the overall aerodynamics. There still is an effect, but not a massive one.
"Also, we are simulating the droplets of the rain and so on, and seeing how it affects spray. What is a bit of a challenge in the simulations is to determine the relative proportion of what comes from the diffuser to what comes from the tyres.
"Once we have a solution, we’ll get to do some prototypes and run them on some cars to try and evaluate that properly."
I don't know. I'm no expert but maybe they could try testing it on a wet track?Nikolas Tombazis spoke about the project at the end of 2022. He explained:
"We only think it’s going to be something that gets used on a couple of occasions a year, maybe three, that sort of thing.
"We don’t want it to be that every time there’s a drop of rain, then suddenly you have to fit these things.
"We have done a lot of CFD simulations, because we want to make sure the effect of these devices is relatively small on the overall aerodynamics. There still is an effect, but not a massive one.
"Also, we are simulating the droplets of the rain and so on, and seeing how it affects spray. What is a bit of a challenge in the simulations is to determine the relative proportion of what comes from the diffuser to what comes from the tyres.
"Once we have a solution, we’ll get to do some prototypes and run them on some cars to try and evaluate that properly."
matrignano said:
ralphrj said:
They did think of that...
Doesn't look like the guards are doing a great job!Maybe they should connect a vacuum hose to the guards and collect the water in a tank, which can be emptied at a pit stop. The driver who collects the most water gets extra points.
thegreenhell said:
It's hard to tell from that one image. You'd need to see a car without them in the same conditions to compare. Also, guards or no guards, the water has to go somewhere. They're just trying to stop it from going straight up in the air, so if the guards make it go more outwards than upwards then they might make a difference.
Maybe they should connect a vacuum hose to the guards and collect the water in a tank, which can be emptied at a pit stop. The driver who collects the most water gets extra points.
I'm thinking they need to have jet turbines on the front edges of the front wings, so it blows the water out sideways. No? Maybe its the wine speaking?! Maybe they should connect a vacuum hose to the guards and collect the water in a tank, which can be emptied at a pit stop. The driver who collects the most water gets extra points.
thegreenhell said:
matrignano said:
ralphrj said:
They did think of that...
Doesn't look like the guards are doing a great job!Maybe they should connect a vacuum hose to the guards and collect the water in a tank, which can be emptied at a pit stop. The driver who collects the most water gets extra points.
All this because the seasons have become so long and so contrived with the three USA races and 200 Middle East races that finding good weather most places has become next to impossible 
And more wet races sounded like fun! But apparently it just means they either delay and cancel sessions or fit s
tty mudflaps to the F1 cars.
And more wet races sounded like fun! But apparently it just means they either delay and cancel sessions or fit s
tty mudflaps to the F1 cars.SoulGlo said:
Isn't the problem with the spray coming from the rain exiting with the air through the diffuser? These covers won't really do that much.
Inters & full wets will displace different volumes of water. 85Lt/Second per tyre for the latest full wets? Probably more than the underfloor and diffuser will throw up. The airflow from the diffuser will interact with what has been displaced from the tyres too.Leithen said:
SoulGlo said:
Isn't the problem with the spray coming from the rain exiting with the air through the diffuser? These covers won't really do that much.
Inters & full wets will displace different volumes of water. 85Lt/Second per tyre for the latest full wets? Probably more than the underfloor and diffuser will throw up. The airflow from the diffuser will interact with what has been displaced from the tyres too.narrower tires and less downforce for '26 will help but even fully covered lemans cars through up huge rooster tails. I'm sure in recent years they had to pause a wet race despite having a windscreen and wipers
Muzzer79 said:
Am I the only one curious as to why they're running the car with Alonso's number (14) ?
Just imagine Lewis and Alonso back on the same team after all these years But we have enough exciting Ferrari news beyond dreaming. Pretty sure they're about to announce Newey and also CLC just had his 'we are checking' race engineer banished and replaced. That'll do for one week
Sainz Sr. has signed for Ford to contest the 2025 Dakar.
https://www.autosport.com/dakar/news/ford-signs-ca...
I wonder what this means for Sainz Jr? (if anything)
Could it be a Redbull seat as they are switching to Ford for 2026? Are the ties with Audi now cut?
https://www.autosport.com/dakar/news/ford-signs-ca...
I wonder what this means for Sainz Jr? (if anything)
Could it be a Redbull seat as they are switching to Ford for 2026? Are the ties with Audi now cut?
s-x-i said:
Sainz Sr. has signed for Ford to contest the 2025 Dakar.
https://www.autosport.com/dakar/news/ford-signs-ca...
I wonder what this means for Sainz Jr? (if anything)
Could it be a Redbull seat as they are switching to Ford for 2026? Are the ties with Audi now cut?
1+1 = potatohttps://www.autosport.com/dakar/news/ford-signs-ca...
I wonder what this means for Sainz Jr? (if anything)
Could it be a Redbull seat as they are switching to Ford for 2026? Are the ties with Audi now cut?
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