RE: Mr Big Stuff: Caterpillar 797F

RE: Mr Big Stuff: Caterpillar 797F

Tuesday 20th September 2011

Mr Big Stuff: Caterpillar 797F

Frankly, 'stuff' doesn't get much bigger than this...


Who do you think you are, Mr Big Stuff?
Who do you think you are, Mr Big Stuff?
Our recent review of the Claas Combine Harvester inspired PHer Craig McAteer (pictured right) to send in this excellent contribution.

It's going to be tough to beat - but size isn't everything, even when it comes to PH's 'Mr Big Stuff'. So have you got anything at work/under a tarp in the back garden that qualifies? Send it in!

Meanwhile, let's have a big PH round of applause for Craig - and hand over to him:

*****


"So, you're out shopping for a new 2 seater, what's on your list of requirements?

Large luggage capacity; check.
Comfy seats; check.
Good visibility; not really.
Fuel economy; not a chance.
Oil cooled brakes; eh..?

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the world of mining trucks. They're big in every aspect and they don't come much bigger than this. The CAT 797F.

This behemoth of a vehicle is hard to describe; nothing you'll see on the streets of the world will compare. In fact you'll never see it on the streets; it's just too big. Its working domain is in the mining environments of the world and that's where it belongs. However, if you did drive it on the motorway, it would be the ideal middle lane hogging mobile for the M25; it would take up all three lanes with about 50cm either side to manoeuvre.


It's 7M high, 9.5M wide and just a tad over 15M long. To put that into the obscure measurements - it's the size of 11 and a half Routemaster buses. You'll get three of the buses in the load bay. It's huge.

Weight on the road (unladen) is just over a mind boggling 270 tons. Fill it with an additional 400 tons of dirt in the back and you'll soon be working your way through the seven gears, getting the 4000hp, 106-litre, 20 cylinder, single block, four stroke lump towards its top speed of 42mph.

Driving it. Imagine getting into the upstairs bedroom of your two storey semi-detached house and driving both it and your neighbours' house down the road. It wallows a little, but not as much as you would expect. In fact I would say the handling when fully loaded is quite 'planted' which, given its weight is probably to be expected. Superb power steering means it turns not quite on a penny but, given its size and weight, far more tightly than you would think.


The ride, as the mine operators are keen to say, 'is much better than your average pickup'. However they're referring to the Ford F150 when they say that, which, based on personal experience, has the handling characteristics of a narrow boat with a stuck rudder.

Interested in buying one? Strangely enough, none of the car price guides include the Cat 797F in their books but let's put it this way; you're not going to get much change from $6,000,000 (about £4 million in real money), and you don't want to know about the running costs.

Oh, you do? Ok. Let's assume you want a tyre. That'll be £50,000 sir, and don't forget you're going to need six of them. So that's £300,000 for new boots all round and that doesn't include the fitting costs. I did tell you everything about this truck is big, didn't I?


Fuel economy as you would expect is an alien concept to these beasts. Their tanks will hold 1200 gallons but during a single 24-hour operation, that will be gone and it'll be time to refill it for the next day. That's works out at just under 1 mpg. No, that's not miles per gallon - it's minutes per gallon. Think of the vouchers you'd get at the petrol station.

And then there's the servicing. Oh yes, the servicing. Don't bother messing about with trivial measures of fluid either; none of your 5 Litres of Mobil 1 0w-40 here. Measurements are generally in gallons and there are multiples of them. The cooling system needs 306 gallons, the crank 84 gallons, the diffs 311 gallons and to help stop the beast when it's rolling, the 50 (yes 50) disc brakes require 441 gallons of brake fluid. Just mind-boggling.


It's built for a job, and it pulls no punches; it does it, and it does it better than any other truck of its type. A recent incident between one of these and a bulldozer resulted in the bulldozer being damaged and the CAT going on its merry way undamaged. Its planned role is to haul dirt so it can be processed to extract the oil from it, helping to ensure that we've all got a steady supply of the stuff that we need to run our own vehicles.

Still undecided if this vehicle suits your requirements for a comfortable two-seater? One thing that may sway you one way or the other - it's only available in yellow..."

Words and pics/Craig McAteer







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Escort Si-130

Original Poster:

3,273 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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I want one

Turbobanana

6,292 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Brilliant.

2 things I really like:

The full-size ladder running diagonally across the radiator grille, just like an oversized Volvo, and

The very dinky, almost sportscar-like steering wheel.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Love it biggrin

But:

Article said:
Let's assume you want a tyre. That'll be £50,000 sir, and don't forget you're going to need six of them.
I only see 4 tyres?


Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

179 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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''.....the 50 (yes 50) disc brakes require 441 gallons of brake fluid.''

Say no more!

phil1979

3,559 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Beefmeister said:
Love it biggrin

But:

Article said:
Let's assume you want a tyre. That'll be £50,000 sir, and don't forget you're going to need six of them.
I only see 4 tyres?

For some reason it's missing a rear set. Very odd.


X5TUU

11,950 posts

188 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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awesome... do you need a special license to operate one, or not as its all operated on private land?!?

just imagining the driving tester... lol...

Tester - continue straight ahead at the roundabout
Learner - what roundabout??

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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The owner probably couldn't afford all six. hehe

chanjam

87 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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H O L Y S H I T

someone tell me HOW it makes sense for a company to run these????

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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chanjam said:
H O L Y S H I T

someone tell me HOW it makes sense for a company to run these????
What else are you going to use to carry that much... stuff.

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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phil1979 said:
For some reason it's missing a rear set. Very odd.
The additional rears are on the way, the author tells us. Well spotted nerd

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

155 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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If I ever live in the middle of no where in Africa, i'm getting one of these mofo's!

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Straight 20 engine biggrin

Torquemada

616 posts

274 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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7 gears? I thought these big trucks had hydraulic drive motors on each wheel?

Merp

2,222 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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rhinochopig said:
Straight 20 engine biggrin
V20 actually...suffers quite heavily with bottom end bearing failures aswell!

I would personally go for a Komatsu 960 with a Cummins QSK78...but im not biased wink

Edited by Merp on Tuesday 20th September 11:33

phil1979

3,559 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Torquemada said:
7 gears? I thought these big trucks had hydraulic drive motors on each wheel?
Others like Liebherr etc use diesel-electric drive, whereas Cat have always specialised in mechanical drive. Will probably change in the future, though, as they have recently bought out a major competitor, who themselves had purchased Terex (makers of the Unit Rig trucks, which are diesel-elec.

chanjam

87 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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kambites said:
chanjam said:
H O L Y S H I T

someone tell me HOW it makes sense for a company to run these????
What else are you going to use to carry that much... stuff.
there has got to be a cheaper way to move stuff around??? imagine how many people u can hire for that cost!!!!

phil1979

3,559 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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chanjam said:
kambites said:
chanjam said:
H O L Y S H I T

someone tell me HOW it makes sense for a company to run these????
What else are you going to use to carry that much... stuff.
there has got to be a cheaper way to move stuff around??? imagine how many people u can hire for that cost!!!!
There is (conveyors), but as a mine expands it can get very expensive to keep moving / extending a conveyor belt. Trucks are expensive upfront, but they offer flexibility. When a mine is constantly getting wider and deeper, a truck is sometimes the best option. Other technologies are getting used more nowadays (in-pit crushing and conveying), but trucks seem to dominate.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Merp said:
rhinochopig said:
Straight 20 engine biggrin
V20 actually...suffers quite heavily with bottom end bearing failures aswell!

I would personally go for a Komatsu 960 with a Cummins QSK78...but im not biased wink

Edited by Merp on Tuesday 20th September 11:33
Ah, it was the single block quote that suggested the straight 20. So the V is a single machined piece of metal then or was the single block statement wrong?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Bet it sounds great too wink

Merp

2,222 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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rhinochopig said:
Ah, it was the single block quote that suggested the straight 20. So the V is a single machined piece of metal then or was the single block statement wrong?
I would assume its similar to our products which is a cast single piece block then machined on enormous 7/9 axis CNC machines