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hornetrider
40,803 posts
74 months
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jonnydm said: Oh gosh. Er that looks great and its near. Do the 3.3s have the chocolate gaskets? No, that's the V8s. I think the 3.3 is the better car (having never driven both! lmao) Very quick, more nimble, better steering and empeegees, and that one seems a great price. The day is young.
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W00DY
7,848 posts
95 months
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I don't think it will have been ambered from the factory, but the gold wouldn't work otherwise... 
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Fox-
9,958 posts
115 months
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W00DY said: Something feels odd. 'RUNS'? I should hope so. And is that a £2k W220 S600 V12 from the same dealer with the same confident words of 'DRIVES BRILLIANTLY' that they use to describe the Alpina?
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chris116
508 posts
37 months
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Damn, that's cheap for a B10. Must be a reason for the low price surely?
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sparks_E39
6,575 posts
82 months
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The more I think about it the more I think a pre facelift B10 3.3 will be my next car. I love the styling, more so than an E39 Sport or M5, especially those wheels. All they need is the OEM angels uo front and clear rears to be exactly to my taste. I've heard they are apparently not a million miles off 540 territory as far as performance is concerned but without the fuel bill. I'm sure someone with a thicker beard than I can shed some light on that, but regardless I love them but I would have those stripes off before you knew it! They look great on an 80's Alpina, but not on an E39 in my opinion.
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sparks_E39
6,575 posts
82 months
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chris116 said: Damn, that's cheap for a B10. Must be a reason for the low price surely? It is isn't it, but then not particulary suprising seeing that nice facelifts can be had for £6-£8000 now.
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Fox-
9,958 posts
115 months
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sparks_E39 said: It is isn't it, but then not particulary suprising seeing that nice facelifts can be had for £6-£8000 now. Well a facelift isnt double the car so the fact a facelift is double the price doesn't seem to explain why this one is £3490. I wonder if its as good as his £2200 S600.
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sparks_E39
6,575 posts
82 months
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I know what your saying, I've seen a few dip below £5000 here and there. They do seem to stay up for sale for a while though, there was a silver one for sale for ages at £3-4000 ish that looked immaculate from the ad.... Fox- said: I wonder if its as good as his £2200 S600. What's the normal going rate for a 12 year old S Class? I presume that it's done more than the 12,000 the ad implies 
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chris116
508 posts
37 months
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sparks_E39 said: It is isn't it, but then not particulary suprising seeing that nice facelifts can be had for £6-£8000 now. I went to see a facelift 3.3 recently, for sale at £6k with 90k. Looked lovely. Car needed at least £3k spending on it and that was before having it inspected and with no evidence of any cooling system work being carried out. At £3.5k that one is cheap enough to be a bit suspicious to me, a trader isn't going to price it that low without a reason I would have thought.
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hornetrider
40,803 posts
74 months
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At 3.5k though there's a bork fund in the bank. Buy it, run it, find out what's wrong then throw some money at it.
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confused_buyer
1,875 posts
50 months
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Fox- said: on the market the 2.2 and 2.5 are unloved in comparison to the 3.0 and also tend to be owned by the sort of retired gentlemen you'd like to buy a car from so are worth a look. The 525i has a fair bit less go than the 530i though - it isn't exactly slow but the difference is quite marked in auto form. For day to day running costs I guess a 530d manual which has had its turbo & injectors replaced by someone else is the best. 
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andy43
2,988 posts
123 months
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hornetrider said: jonnydm said: Oh gosh. Er that looks great and its near. Do the 3.3s have the chocolate gaskets? No, that's the V8s. I think the 3.3 is the better car (having never driven both! lmao) Very quick, more nimble, better steering and empeegees, and that one seems a great price. The day is young. Same engine as my B3 - the 3.3 head gaskets are thought to be reliable but the 3.4S (and V8) ones aren't. I've seen more than a couple of 3.4S advertised with new gaskets. If the cooling system is A1 it should be fine - 5-er does seem to be thought to have more 'issues' with cooling than the 3 though. Other point to note with the 3.3 is early cars used more oil - no consensus on exactly when this improved, it seems random. Mine's early '01 and uses a bit now and then, but nowhere near the 1,000 miles a litre I've seen mentioned. You can usually solve this with slightly thicker oil anyway afaik. £3490 - do it
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jonnydm
4,625 posts
78 months
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andy43 said: hornetrider said: jonnydm said: Oh gosh. Er that looks great and its near. Do the 3.3s have the chocolate gaskets? No, that's the V8s. I think the 3.3 is the better car (having never driven both! lmao) Very quick, more nimble, better steering and empeegees, and that one seems a great price. The day is young. Same engine as my B3 - the 3.3 head gaskets are thought to be reliable but the 3.4S (and V8) ones aren't. I've seen more than a couple of 3.4S advertised with new gaskets. If the cooling system is A1 it should be fine - 5-er does seem to be thought to have more 'issues' with cooling than the 3 though. Other point to note with the 3.3 is early cars used more oil - no consensus on exactly when this improved, it seems random. Mine's early '01 and uses a bit now and then, but nowhere near the 1,000 miles a litre I've seen mentioned. You can usually solve this with slightly thicker oil anyway afaik. £3490 - do it Thanks for your thoughts - my humble 330 has used a good litre in about 1k of driving! Although I am leaning towards Fox's view re. the condition, but then one wouldn't expect too much for that money.
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Apache
38,246 posts
153 months
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jonnydm said: andy43 said: hornetrider said: jonnydm said: Oh gosh. Er that looks great and its near. Do the 3.3s have the chocolate gaskets? No, that's the V8s. I think the 3.3 is the better car (having never driven both! lmao) Very quick, more nimble, better steering and empeegees, and that one seems a great price. The day is young. Same engine as my B3 - the 3.3 head gaskets are thought to be reliable but the 3.4S (and V8) ones aren't. I've seen more than a couple of 3.4S advertised with new gaskets. If the cooling system is A1 it should be fine - 5-er does seem to be thought to have more 'issues' with cooling than the 3 though. Other point to note with the 3.3 is early cars used more oil - no consensus on exactly when this improved, it seems random. Mine's early '01 and uses a bit now and then, but nowhere near the 1,000 miles a litre I've seen mentioned. You can usually solve this with slightly thicker oil anyway afaik. £3490 - do it Thanks for your thoughts - my humble 330 has used a good litre in about 1k of driving! Although I am leaning towards Fox's view re. the condition, but then one wouldn't expect too much for that money. That's a bit strange, the 3.3 is surely just a bored out 3.2, which I have and uses no oil at all, did something change on the later engines?
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W00DY
7,848 posts
95 months
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jonnydm said: Thanks for your thoughts - my humble 330 has used a good litre in about 1k of driving! Although I am leaning towards Fox's view re. the condition, but then one wouldn't expect too much for that money. On the condition fromt, I think it goes either way. A place like that which doesn't specialise will just be looking at the bottom line and if they can get a vehicle cheap enough they'll take it, no matter how it's been looked after. Like the Cash Converters of the car world, you could get a gem or a cobbled together piece of crap.
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W00DY
7,848 posts
95 months
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hornetrider
40,803 posts
74 months
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W00DY said: Mega for the entry price eh. No average punter would ever believe that's a 5k car.
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andy43
2,988 posts
123 months
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I would have posted a nice W124, but it's under thread budget. Aww, go on then.. £950 please
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andy43
2,988 posts
123 months
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Apache said: jonnydm said: andy43 said: hornetrider said: jonnydm said: Oh gosh. Er that looks great and its near. Do the 3.3s have the chocolate gaskets? No, that's the V8s. I think the 3.3 is the better car (having never driven both! lmao) Very quick, more nimble, better steering and empeegees, and that one seems a great price. The day is young. Same engine as my B3 - the 3.3 head gaskets are thought to be reliable but the 3.4S (and V8) ones aren't. I've seen more than a couple of 3.4S advertised with new gaskets. If the cooling system is A1 it should be fine - 5-er does seem to be thought to have more 'issues' with cooling than the 3 though. Other point to note with the 3.3 is early cars used more oil - no consensus on exactly when this improved, it seems random. Mine's early '01 and uses a bit now and then, but nowhere near the 1,000 miles a litre I've seen mentioned. You can usually solve this with slightly thicker oil anyway afaik. £3490 - do it Thanks for your thoughts - my humble 330 has used a good litre in about 1k of driving! Although I am leaning towards Fox's view re. the condition, but then one wouldn't expect too much for that money. That's a bit strange, the 3.3 is surely just a bored out 3.2, which I have and uses no oil at all, did something change on the later engines? Tbh, I dunno - I think they sorted it 2000/2001, but I do know it affected B10 and B3 with the same engine.
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W00DY
7,848 posts
95 months
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hornetrider said: W00DY said: Mega for the entry price eh. No average punter would ever believe that's a 5k car. Even my brain struggles slightly with it tbh.
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