Still a £$&£$ on the log book

Still a £$&£$ on the log book

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V8forweekends

2,481 posts

125 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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rovermorris999 said:
Have we seen this one yet?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-Tax-Exempt-...

Still registered as an 850cc and 'it's a little bit fast lol'.
Judging by the bodyshell and suspension, I doubt whether it's even entitled to use that reg number and be tax-exempt, according to the strict letter of the law, never mind the engine. If the man from VOSA saw it, I suspect it'd end up as a Q reg, since it appears to be a "Trigger's broom"

AlexRS2782

8,052 posts

214 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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I guess this also counts:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modified-toyota-MR2-turb...

Was a N/A MR2 but now been converted to a turbo setup, but still registered as N/A.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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AlexRS2782 said:
I guess this also counts:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modified-toyota-MR2-turb...

Was a N/A MR2 but now been converted to a turbo setup, but still registered as N/A.
Undoubtedly. The "cheap insurance" fraud is clearly aimed at drivers who wants the speed but not the cost involved and compliance with the law. Criminal matter rendering the car uninsured but sadly these lowlife could not care less.

AlexRS2782

8,052 posts

214 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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From PH for a change rather than eBay - bet it's still down as a 1.6.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

Excellent short description & only a bargain £8 too hehe

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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AlexRS2782 said:
From PH for a change rather than eBay - bet it's still down as a 1.6.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

Excellent short description & only a bargain £8 too hehe
It could be the ultra rare pocket block 1.6 YB engine. wink

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Liquid Knight said:
AlexRS2782 said:
From PH for a change rather than eBay - bet it's still down as a 1.6.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

Excellent short description & only a bargain £8 too hehe
It could be the ultra rare pocket block 1.6 YB engine. wink
Indeed it could which certainly has a cachet value. The car is registered as a Fiesta RS Turbo so that in itself must make it worth something. I really do not know about this car at all. Over to the Ford experts. If it is actually something else then the DVLA have been fooled.

AlexRS2782

8,052 posts

214 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Steffan said:
Liquid Knight said:
AlexRS2782 said:
From PH for a change rather than eBay - bet it's still down as a 1.6.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

Excellent short description & only a bargain £8 too hehe
It could be the ultra rare pocket block 1.6 YB engine. wink
Indeed it could which certainly has a cachet value. The car is registered as a Fiesta RS Turbo so that in itself must make it worth something. I really do not know about this car at all. Over to the Ford experts. If it is actually something else then the DVLA have been fooled.
No it's the 2litre out of either a Sierra or Escort Cosworth from memory - built by South Coast Performance a few years ago.

I think it's essentially a 2wd Sierra floorpan that has been cut / shortened and the original 1.6 Fiesta RST shell / ID / etc, has been welded on top of it.

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Saturday 15th March 23:18

Liquid Knight

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184 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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AlexRS2782 said:
Steffan said:
Liquid Knight said:
AlexRS2782 said:
From PH for a change rather than eBay - bet it's still down as a 1.6.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

Excellent short description & only a bargain £8 too hehe
It could be the ultra rare pocket block 1.6 YB engine. wink
Indeed it could which certainly has a cachet value. The car is registered as a Fiesta RS Turbo so that in itself must make it worth something. I really do not know about this car at all. Over to the Ford experts. If it is actually something else then the DVLA have been fooled.
No it's the 2litre out of either a Sierra or Escort Cosworth from memory - built by South Coast Performance a few years ago.

I think it's essentially a 2wd Sierra floorpan that has been cut / shortened and the original 1.6 Fiesta RST shell / ID / etc, has been welded on top of it.

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Saturday 15th March 23:18
They never made a 1.6 YB. That's why it would be "Ultra Rare". That's a 205 block. wink

Liquid Knight

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Liquid Knight

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dome

687 posts

258 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Liquid Knight said:
Yep, found this amusing as I followed both threads. One fawning over an admittedly cracking van conversion and the other reporting the very same thing to ebay etc. Gotta love this place.

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-106-CUSTOM-2-0-L...

Interesting and cheap enough to consider...

DVLA said:
Date of Liability 01 10 2013
Date of First Registration 28 04 1995
Year of Manufacture 1995
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1527cc
CO₂ Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type HEAVY OIL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour YELLOW
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
... rolleyes

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Another brilliant looking car...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-fiesta-mk2-panique-...

eBay said:
the car is a popular plus on v5 and as such still has engine cc recorded as 1117cc it is up to the new owner to inform the dvla of change in engine size to 1679cc :-)

AlexRS2782

8,052 posts

214 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Just posted that in the Badly Modified thread - I'm lost for words on how to describe that tbh laugh

Liquid Knight

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Monday 31st March 2014
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AlexRS2782

8,052 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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'Dutton' kit car

"STARTED LIFE AS A DUTTON" No it didn't, the only part belonging to a Dutton is the V5.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
'Dutton' kit car

"STARTED LIFE AS A DUTTON" No it didn't, the only part belonging to a Dutton is the V5.
Problem with such cars is that the complete horlicks that it now is will never get registered legally on the road as the seller has doubtless found. Misrepresenting the car as a Dutton is indeed bad news. I have seen a number of Westfield kit cars recently registered as Duttons supposedly and on sale. I presume this is to effect a quick sale because otherwise few will be interested as it must be a track only car. This will come unstuck once a decent MOT station sees the car because it is not a Dutton. I do hope the prospective viewers see this for what it is and walk away. Lot more doubtful kit cars getting VOR'd now with the push from the DVLA/VOSA to weed out the ringers.

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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IVA = £400 and there's no assurance the car will pass.

Kit Car Log Book = £60-£300

Selling someone a death trap? Priceless.

This is one of the reasons this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

...thread is still going.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Liquid Knight said:
IVA = £400 and there's no assurance the car will pass.

Kit Car Log Book = £60-£300

Selling someone a death trap? Priceless.

This is one of the reasons this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

...thread is still going.
Interesting comments.

Being a retired Chartered Accountant with a penchant for specials and kit cars I have developed many contacts in the KC manufacturing over many years. I suggest to the KC manufacturers that I know that the real costs of IVA are significantly higher than the bare £400 test costs because:

1) Invariably a retest for something minor (that is if all goes well!!) will be required which is another £90.

2) Generally the car will need trailering to the test centre and back and then to the test centre and back for the retest which must add another few pounds. At least.

3) If the car is an old design pre IVA it can become really very tricky to get through and may require yet another test and extensive modification. If that proves sufficient. I have had some experience of this which is why I no longer buy non IVA compliant unfinished kit cars. Generally such "barn finds" (sic!!) are well beyond economic repair and very difficult to successfully IVA.

There are kit cars being finished every week in the UK and the prodigious output of Stuart Mills with his MEV outfit and a number of other makers demonstrate that some of the kit car manufacturers are meeting the challenge of the changed circumstances under IVA. However the old days in my more youthful life of Dutton's, Robin Hood's and Locosts, Locusts, JC Locusts TJ Locusts, MK Locusts etc ad infinitum coming onto the roads by the thousand are long gone and will not return.

IVA or its successor are here to stay and kit car enthusiasts have to build these costs into the overall sum required to complete and get a kit car on the road today. It is not, nor can it be, an inexpensive business. However without a doubt these IVA tested cars are vastly better than the earlier output coming on the road pre IVA and such is progress.

In short, which it must be apparent,from the above, is not my style, these flaunted opportunities are best avoided. Better to buy a kit which can be IVA'd. Definitely!