Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

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otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I don't understand why retro external styling means that you wouldn't want modern tech - fitting a pastiche of an old fashioned stereo seems silly.

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Drive it fix it repeat said:
...thought this was a car forum?
To be fair, nothing ever gets universal praise, and no-one buys the cars they say they like.

As always, I suspect projects like this will find homes with buyers who have it in addition to a Lotus or Porsche rather than instead of...

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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otolith said:
I don't understand why retro external styling means that you wouldn't want modern tech - fitting a pastiche of an old fashioned stereo seems silly.
It makes sense aesthetically. The whole car is a pastiche of an old fashioned car, so a touch screen is a bit incongruous.

The tech is useful, granted, but perhaps it could be hidden behind a blind for when it's not actively being used?


Blayney

2,948 posts

187 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Ticks all of my boxes but as usual I can't afford it... that's on me not the car though biggrin


PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Drive it fix it repeat said:
I really like that. Side windows look a bit odd, would rather a normal window. I like the looks, can’t be doing with all the stick on tat with modern cars. Enough performance to be a lot of fun and should handle excellently. 40k doesn’t seem unreasonable when compared against other things either IMO. You’d think people on here would be more supportive, thought this was a car forum?
It is a car forum, but that doesn't stop me thinking that it's an ugly looking car.

shih tzu faced

2,597 posts

50 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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We’re heading out of lockdown, it’s Friday, it’s summer, England are in the final and there’s a new front engined, RWD, normally aspirated, lightweight, sensibly priced British sports car on the scene… and STILL a load of miserable fish wives aren’t happy laugh

I despair! I prescribe a good drink followed by a leg over for some of you lot.

Love this car and honestly thought the days of specialist cars made in sheds were long gone, especially with safety regs, the push for EVs etc. Compare this with TVR, sapping away millions of pounds and nothing to show for it. Kudos to this team for getting their project off the ground with no fuss at all.

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
otolith said:
I don't understand why retro external styling means that you wouldn't want modern tech - fitting a pastiche of an old fashioned stereo seems silly.
It makes sense aesthetically. The whole car is a pastiche of an old fashioned car, so a touch screen is a bit incongruous.

The tech is useful, granted, but perhaps it could be hidden behind a blind for when it's not actively being used?
Seems to me that if you want an old fashioned car you may as well buy a classic - if you want a contemporary car with retro external styling that's another matter.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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otolith said:
SpeckledJim said:
otolith said:
I don't understand why retro external styling means that you wouldn't want modern tech - fitting a pastiche of an old fashioned stereo seems silly.
It makes sense aesthetically. The whole car is a pastiche of an old fashioned car, so a touch screen is a bit incongruous.

The tech is useful, granted, but perhaps it could be hidden behind a blind for when it's not actively being used?
Seems to me that if you want an old fashioned car you may as well buy a classic - if you want a contemporary car with retro external styling that's another matter.
Fair enough, and it's not a hill to die on, and not really a big thing in the context of the whole car. A hatch or louvred blind or something would be good though.


sideways sid

1,371 posts

216 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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To design, build and put this on the road with those dimensions, and that performance deserves applause and respect.

PH comments on release of many new cars are along the lines of "if only it was lighter", "if only it was less expensive" etc. This is!

That it is priced atGBP40k, seems astonishingly good value against its peers (Ginetta G40, Exige, Jannerelly etc)

I wish them success and hope that they sell more than the 25 pa aspiration in the Autocar article.

blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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This, or a used Noble....

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I like it - the exterior at least.

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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shih tzu faced said:
We’re heading out of lockdown, it’s Friday, it’s summer, England are in the final and there’s a new front engined, RWD, normally aspirated, lightweight, sensibly priced British sports car on the scene… and STILL a load of miserable fish wives aren’t happy laugh

I despair! I prescribe a good drink followed by a leg over for some of you lot.

Love this car and honestly thought the days of specialist cars made in sheds were long gone, especially with safety regs, the push for EVs etc. Compare this with TVR, sapping away millions of pounds and nothing to show for it. Kudos to this team for getting their project off the ground with no fuss at all.
I'm genuinely curious as to how many people actually want an ultra-low-volume, built-in-a-shed car? If it's track you're after, an Ultima beckons. Or an Atom. Or a Radical. Or an X-Bow. Or a whole load more.

A road car, you say? In that case, why would you even consider looking past a Lotus? Elise/Exige etc in all sorts of flavours have been around forever, have proven performance/spares/specialist support, owners club support and an established resale value. Ditto Caterham, though a different sort of car.

I have no problem with someone coming up with a new car, but a total first run of 7 and an annual run of 25 (I doubt they'll ever get beyond the original 7) means that any owners will have to also double as road testers. And I'd not do that for £4000, let alone £40,000.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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longblackcoat said:
shih tzu faced said:
We’re heading out of lockdown, it’s Friday, it’s summer, England are in the final and there’s a new front engined, RWD, normally aspirated, lightweight, sensibly priced British sports car on the scene… and STILL a load of miserable fish wives aren’t happy laugh

I despair! I prescribe a good drink followed by a leg over for some of you lot.

Love this car and honestly thought the days of specialist cars made in sheds were long gone, especially with safety regs, the push for EVs etc. Compare this with TVR, sapping away millions of pounds and nothing to show for it. Kudos to this team for getting their project off the ground with no fuss at all.
I'm genuinely curious as to how many people actually want an ultra-low-volume, built-in-a-shed car? If it's track you're after, an Ultima beckons. Or an Atom. Or a Radical. Or an X-Bow. Or a whole load more.

A road car, you say? In that case, why would you even consider looking past a Lotus? Elise/Exige etc in all sorts of flavours have been around forever, have proven performance/spares/specialist support, owners club support and an established resale value. Ditto Caterham, though a different sort of car.

I have no problem with someone coming up with a new car, but a total first run of 7 and an annual run of 25 (I doubt they'll ever get beyond the original 7) means that any owners will have to also double as road testers. And I'd not do that for £4000, let alone £40,000.
Almost nobody does. But that syncs with the production ambitions, so it might be fine.

This is MUCH more interesting than a Lotus. No, it won't be as good a 'product' but if it drives ok and gets a decent write-up in the right places, then it might well find 25 customers a year.


10126 Torino

4,404 posts

80 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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PH User said:
that it's an ugly looking car.
3rd time you have said that ,just shutup about it .


Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Indeed. 25 cars a year is pretty much 'selling to your mates' levels.

You could probably sell a dozen to various collectors who'd never drive it and just want something no-one else has.

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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10126 Torino said:
PH User said:
that it's an ugly looking car.
3rd time you have said that ,just shutup about it .
What calling it an ugly car? Does that count as a 4th time?

Xcore

1,345 posts

91 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Hard top fisher fury?!

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Seems a clever strategy.
First batch of seven pre-sold to mates & family etc.
If / when there's enough orders, they'll build a small batch.

25 cars / year is a batch of six cars every quarter (approx).

Best of luck to them.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Needs to be pointed out, the website says it’s £45k.

Still made contact with them though, a very interesting project.

SturdyHSV

10,099 posts

168 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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200bhp? Needs more power, obviously hehe

Personally not a fan of the looks or the 4 cylinder, a 3 would have been cool in terms of having an interesting engine note.

Cool that it's still possible to build and IVA simple stuff like this, good on him.