Which car has the greatest range?

Which car has the greatest range?

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nomank

241 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Had a Cayenne 958 diesel a few years back. Had a 100litre tank. After a refill it regularly showed a 900 mile range. Reality - would do about 750 miles if I just did motorway miles.

Took bloomin ages to fill up though and you certainly couldn't use the £99 max fill type pumps that were around then...

GT9

6,672 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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bodhi said:
So up to 300 miles less than some of the diesel barges mentioned then.

Very strange definition of "sewn up" but it takes all sorts I guess.
Yeah, I meant as in both ICEs and EVs.
Appreciate it doesn't necessarily read like like that.

Garett

1,626 posts

193 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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That's our V70 D5 after a return trip from Yorkshire to Somerset, with a bit of running around whilst we were down there. 518.9 miles complete and 335 remain, and it was showing 1000 mile range after about 50 miles into the journey but realistically 800+ should be easily achievable.
There are more economical engine options, like the 1.6 diesel which would be dreadfully underpowered but with a 70 litre tank should go for miles without a refill.



Edited by Garett on Wednesday 24th April 06:58

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Wednesday 24th April
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It does irritate me that my Octavia has a tiny tank. On a run does 60mpg (vRS). 500-550 miles between fills so if it had an 80 litre tank like my old Passat then I could see 1000miles.

My Transporter van isn’t bad. Driven steadily it gets 45mpg, so 800 miles between fills.

MB140

4,077 posts

104 months

Wednesday 24th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Wills2 said:
My mild hybrid 730d has a good range, a few weeks ago I averaged 64mpg on a run to the coast, giving a max range of 1110 miles from the 78l tank (that was in comfort plus mode not eco pro which is hateful), Joe Achillies on youtube did a run in his 730d to Madrid and got 1100 miles out of one tank so it's possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tisMPZeCHzI



Edited by Wills2 on Monday 22 April 19:36
That's got to be in for a shout.

Wonder if any of the economical big boys have a 100 litre tank as standard? That would be well over 1600 miles at that sort of economy.
There must come a point where lugging around huge quantities of fuel in terms of weight becomes a hindering factor in terms of the range the extra fuel costs. I wonder what the calculations for that look like and at which point it happens.

Must admit I’m highly impressed with some of the mpg and ranges quoted here. It’s pretty impressive when a bmw 3 series is managing near enough 70-80mpg as some are saying they get. It really does show how far we have developed the efficiency of ICE cars over the last few decade. I remember when 30mpg was nearly unheard of from a petrol.

My 3L M135i will easily return mid 30s on the motorway without trying. If you drive Uber careful I’ve had 42mpg once (long stretch of M1 being converted to smart at the time so sat at 50mph for mile after mile helped.

Ken_Code

444 posts

3 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I drive up and down the country once a month, 300 miles each way, and decided a while back when I started doing it that it wasn’t enough miles to justify changing cars to something more economical.

Having to fill up from starting with a full tank on this month’s trip and reading this is making me think again.

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Ken_Code said:
I drive up and down the country once a month, 300 miles each way, and decided a while back when I started doing it that it wasn’t enough miles to justify changing cars to something more economical.

Having to fill up from starting with a full tank on this month’s trip and reading this is making me think again.
I used to do a 440 mile round trip every week, doing it in the M5 was pain as I'd have to fill up even when setting off with a full tank doing it in the 730d I'd make it on half a tank easily.





Ken_Code

444 posts

3 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Wills2 said:
I used to do a 440 mile round trip every week, doing it in the M5 was pain as I'd have to fill up even when setting off with a full tank doing it in the 730d I'd make it on half a tank easily.
I normally do it in my Range Rover, which has a 90l tank.

I brought the McLaren this time, which struggles to do over 250 miles.

varsas

4,014 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th April
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MB140 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Wills2 said:
My mild hybrid 730d has a good range, a few weeks ago I averaged 64mpg on a run to the coast, giving a max range of 1110 miles from the 78l tank (that was in comfort plus mode not eco pro which is hateful), Joe Achillies on youtube did a run in his 730d to Madrid and got 1100 miles out of one tank so it's possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tisMPZeCHzI



Edited by Wills2 on Monday 22 April 19:36
That's got to be in for a shout.

Wonder if any of the economical big boys have a 100 litre tank as standard? That would be well over 1600 miles at that sort of economy.
There must come a point where lugging around huge quantities of fuel in terms of weight becomes a hindering factor in terms of the range the extra fuel costs. I wonder what the calculations for that look like and at which point it happens.

Must admit I’m highly impressed with some of the mpg and ranges quoted here. It’s pretty impressive when a bmw 3 series is managing near enough 70-80mpg as some are saying they get. It really does show how far we have developed the efficiency of ICE cars over the last few decade. I remember when 30mpg was nearly unheard of from a petrol.

My 3L M135i will easily return mid 30s on the motorway without trying. If you drive Uber careful I’ve had 42mpg once (long stretch of M1 being converted to smart at the time so sat at 50mph for mile after mile helped.
Fuel doesn't weigh that much in the context of a car (petrol is less dense than diesel, but both are less dense than water, but 100litres of diesel only weighs (has a mass of, if we are being accurate) 85kg, so same as a single passenger more or less ) and weight/mass doesn't have a big impact on fuel economy, especially assuming these long distances are being covered at a steady speed so I think you'd need a vast amount of fuel for it to make an impact. The extra weight may even lower the car improving aerodynamics.... The cannonball guys fit very large fuel tanks, one covered the whole of the 'states at very high speeds with just one refuel and that was still faster than stopping more often. He basically took the car up to it's max gross weight with fuel, after removing rear seats/trim etc and it was still the best way to do it.

crofty1984

15,873 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I'm sure someone got 1000 miles out of a 1.5 106 diesel or similar.

BricktopST205

940 posts

135 months

Wednesday 24th April
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crofty1984 said:
I'm sure someone got 1000 miles out of a 1.5 106 diesel or similar.
Scania R450 will do 1000 miles to a tank wink

Purosangue

Original Poster:

966 posts

14 months

Thursday 25th April
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BricktopST205 said:
crofty1984 said:
I'm sure someone got 1000 miles out of a 1.5 106 diesel or similar.
Scania R450 will do 1000 miles to a tank wink

you would be hard pressed to get your family dog and shopping in an HGV ?? .........its not a car imo

ChocolateFrog

25,470 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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MB140 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Wills2 said:
My mild hybrid 730d has a good range, a few weeks ago I averaged 64mpg on a run to the coast, giving a max range of 1110 miles from the 78l tank (that was in comfort plus mode not eco pro which is hateful), Joe Achillies on youtube did a run in his 730d to Madrid and got 1100 miles out of one tank so it's possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tisMPZeCHzI



Edited by Wills2 on Monday 22 April 19:36
That's got to be in for a shout.

Wonder if any of the economical big boys have a 100 litre tank as standard? That would be well over 1600 miles at that sort of economy.
There must come a point where lugging around huge quantities of fuel in terms of weight becomes a hindering factor in terms of the range the extra fuel costs. I wonder what the calculations for that look like and at which point it happens.

Must admit I’m highly impressed with some of the mpg and ranges quoted here. It’s pretty impressive when a bmw 3 series is managing near enough 70-80mpg as some are saying they get. It really does show how far we have developed the efficiency of ICE cars over the last few decade. I remember when 30mpg was nearly unheard of from a petrol.

My 3L M135i will easily return mid 30s on the motorway without trying. If you drive Uber careful I’ve had 42mpg once (long stretch of M1 being converted to smart at the time so sat at 50mph for mile after mile helped.
Weight isn't a factor in consumption when you're at a steady cruise.

Only really comes into play when you're accelerating. An extra 20 or 30kg on a 2t car wouldn't even be measurable IMO.

ChocolateFrog

25,470 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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BricktopST205 said:
crofty1984 said:
I'm sure someone got 1000 miles out of a 1.5 106 diesel or similar.
Scania R450 will do 1000 miles to a tank wink
Is that all? I assumed a HGV would be able to go a lot further than that.

I guess that's around 10mpg((?)maybe a bit less) So circa 450 litre tank.

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th April
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Garett said:
...V70 D5 ....
There are more economical engine options, like the 1.6 diesel ...
I've had both a S60 D5 (proper D5 with 5 cylinders biggrin ) and V60 1.6d.

I got the same real world MPG from the 1.6 as the 2.4 as you always drove the smaller engine with your foot to the floor.

I'm sure it was more economical on a motorway cruise, but with the big range there would always be plenty of town driving on every tank.

GT9

6,672 posts

173 months

Thursday 25th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Weight isn't a factor in consumption when you're at a steady cruise.

Only really comes into play when you're accelerating. An extra 20 or 30kg on a 2t car wouldn't even be measurable IMO.
0.06 bhp per ton per mph when cruising.

Pretty difficult to measure...

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Thursday 25th April
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If only my Skoda Octavia had a decently sized fuel tank. If it had the same size tank as my old Passat I'd see 1000 miles between fills but as it is it's only 550miles or so. My transporter van isn't bad, 800 miles between fills when driven carefully.

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Thursday 25th April
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Ken_Code said:
Wills2 said:
I used to do a 440 mile round trip every week, doing it in the M5 was pain as I'd have to fill up even when setting off with a full tank doing it in the 730d I'd make it on half a tank easily.
I normally do it in my Range Rover, which has a 90l tank.

I brought the McLaren this time, which struggles to do over 250 miles.
I used t do it in my 911 but at least I could have fun on the country roads section of the journey the M5 was neither fish nor fowl in that respect at least you can have some fun in the McLaren as yin to the range yang.


Ste372

630 posts

88 months

Thursday 25th April
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I've got a Honda civic tourer 1.6dtec. I think official figures are about 70mpg ish.

We did 1300 miles recently on a week away. I do have the figures somewhere but the end result was calculated 81mpg give or take 1/2/ either way

Again recently did a trip to Wales which was 280 mile round trip with 180 miles on b roads and calculated to 70mpg.

It has a 50L fuel tank capacity apparently which is food for thought as when I think it's empty I can only usually get just under 40L in it.