RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k
Discussion
fatsams said:
With many manufacturers stopping/suspending electric car manufacturing, why is it electric? I would love to buy one but not electric. Wouldn’t it be great to make it eFuel, it would push the petrol suppliers to make it available at local petrol stations, perhaps encouraging petrol car users to start using it!
No cloud to shout at?I see its bigger then I thought at more then 4,50 mtr also wheelbase over 2,60 mtr then I guess the turning circle is bigger then say 11 mtr?
say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
GTRene said:
I see its bigger then I thought at more then 4,50 mtr also wheelbase over 2,60 mtr then I guess the turning circle is bigger then say 11 mtr?
say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
PistonHeads… turning circles matter!say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
Skeptisk said:
It is like a perfect storm this thread to shake out the anti EV bores who moan (the same moan) on any article about EVs but also being about a Chinese EV it brings out those who can’t wait to tell us (again) how and why they will never buy anything Chinese.
You mean, drivers. HTH
GTRene said:
I see its bigger then I thought at more then 4,50 mtr also wheelbase over 2,60 mtr then I guess the turning circle is bigger then say 11 mtr?
say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
You really need to get out more . say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
cerb4.5lee said:
Up until I started buying reasonably quick cars, I could always feel the difference in weight when you were 4 up. I remember my old E61 520d feeling as gutless as hell when it was fully loaded with us and stuff for example.
I once had 4 adults in my old M2 Comp and when going for a quick exit off a roundabout I remember being quietly disappointed at how much I could feel the performance had been dented. Atleast I can’t fit 4 people or anything bigger than a sandwich in my current A110 I suppose 
ds666 said:
GTRene said:
I see its bigger then I thought at more then 4,50 mtr also wheelbase over 2,60 mtr then I guess the turning circle is bigger then say 11 mtr?
say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
You really need to get out more . say for my garage at the street without driveway and a smal-ish street, I can easily turn the car in backwards with 2 go's I mean turn to the sidewalk and then turn the other side in the garage , the Z3 has 10.4 mtr or M Z3 10.6 mtr, but then I bought a smal-ish Opel Speedster Turbo, I could not turn in thats way, I needed not 2 but 4 turnings so double, then I looked up the turning circle, it was 11.6 mtr...
So I try not to buy cars that need a bigger turning circle then say I guess 11 mtr maximum, so I wonder I also saw that say all? Mc larens need 12 mtr + or so... so I dropped those as well as one day maybe car.
of course some cars you can adjust the turning circle a bit, but still.
so whats it turning circle, not seen that I believe in this thread, could be handy for some buyers, also a smaller circle makes it easier in some situations.
It's the first drop top car that saves me 62% income tax through the salary sacrifice scheme and thus fits the triple role of being my convertiblle, my daily commuter and my fast car tax dodge. Freeing up the slots occupied by my 840d AND MX5 means I have a free slot for something else more left field. Plus I gain a useful tax dodge.
Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Honeywell said:
It's the first drop top car that saves me 62% income tax through the salary sacrifice scheme and thus fits the triple role of being my convertiblle, my daily commuter and my fast car tax dodge. Freeing up the slots occupied by my 840d AND MX5 means I have a free slot for something else more left field. Plus I gain a useful tax dodge.
Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Sort of sums up the world of EVs at the moment….the prime reason to buy a car is as a “useful tax dodge”. If that’s all driving means these days…get a bike.Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Honeywell said:
It's the first drop top car that saves me 62% income tax through the salary sacrifice scheme and thus fits the triple role of being my convertiblle, my daily commuter and my fast car tax dodge. Freeing up the slots occupied by my 840d AND MX5 means I have a free slot for something else more left field. Plus I gain a useful tax dodge.
Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
I think there's a lot of people in a similar situation even as 40% tax payer it makes a lot of sense and covers the 3 bases of daily, fast and roof down pretty well. Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Honeywell said:
It's the first drop top car that saves me 62% income tax through the salary sacrifice scheme and thus fits the triple role of being my convertiblle, my daily commuter and my fast car tax dodge. Freeing up the slots occupied by my 840d AND MX5 means I have a free slot for something else more left field. Plus I gain a useful tax dodge.
Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
You’ll need to explain that, how do you get to a 62% income tax saving?Do I think it's the last word in fun? No, but now I could buy a Caterham or Exige with the tax saving.
Whilst dropping salary to fund this, how do you end up with enough to buy an exige?
Scott-R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Up until I started buying reasonably quick cars, I could always feel the difference in weight when you were 4 up. I remember my old E61 520d feeling as gutless as hell when it was fully loaded with us and stuff for example.
I once had 4 adults in my old M2 Comp and when going for a quick exit off a roundabout I remember being quietly disappointed at how much I could feel the performance had been dented. Atleast I can’t fit 4 people or anything bigger than a sandwich in my current A110 I suppose Although yesterday I was behind a slow moving car just as I got into a national speed limit area(just me and my 8 year old in the car), so I stamped on the throttle in the M4 and it just rocketed past the car in front, and it felt ace to me. I love the DCT for that, and now I have new MPS4S on the rears they will handle full throttle really well too.
The M4 is a funny car at times though, because yesterday doing that overtake it felt really rapid, whereas sometimes I stick my foot right down and I feel like it could do with a bit more shove though, it is all a bit odd really. However I have felt similar to that with a lot of other performance cars I've had over the years though to be fair.
cerb4.5lee said:
I'm lucky in that regard with the 370Z and Caterham only being 2 seaters as well, plus it is mainly only me driving them on my own anyway.
Although yesterday I was behind a slow moving car just as I got into a national speed limit area(just me and my 8 year old in the car), so I stamped on the throttle in the M4 and it just rocketed past the car in front, and it felt ace to me. I love the DCT for that, and now I have new MPS4S on the rears they will handle full throttle really well too.
The M4 is a funny car at times though, because yesterday doing that overtake it felt really rapid, whereas sometimes I stick my foot right down and I feel like it could do with a bit more shove though, it is all a bit odd really. However I have felt similar to that with a lot of other performance cars I've had over the years though to be fair.
If you crave a bit more shove when overtaking then it sounds like an electric car would be perfect for you!Although yesterday I was behind a slow moving car just as I got into a national speed limit area(just me and my 8 year old in the car), so I stamped on the throttle in the M4 and it just rocketed past the car in front, and it felt ace to me. I love the DCT for that, and now I have new MPS4S on the rears they will handle full throttle really well too.
The M4 is a funny car at times though, because yesterday doing that overtake it felt really rapid, whereas sometimes I stick my foot right down and I feel like it could do with a bit more shove though, it is all a bit odd really. However I have felt similar to that with a lot of other performance cars I've had over the years though to be fair.
soxboy said:
If you crave a bit more shove when overtaking then it sounds like an electric car would be perfect for you!
I did actually think about that as I was writing it to be fair! I saw an Audi E-Tron(the Taycan equivalent) do a load of overtaking moves the other day, and it looked so easy, and I don't mean that in a negative way either. It just blasted past everything, and I've always personally liked that kind of thing for sure.
cerb4.5lee said:
soxboy said:
If you crave a bit more shove when overtaking then it sounds like an electric car would be perfect for you!
I did actually think about that as I was writing it to be fair! I saw an Audi E-Tron(the Taycan equivalent) do a load of overtaking moves the other day, and it looked so easy, and I don't mean that in a negative way either. It just blasted past everything, and I've always personally liked that kind of thing for sure.
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