RE: Polestar 5 prototype charges in 10 minutes

This is where the underlying infrastructure needs to improve…

For example our office has space for 60 cars in car park, we have 12 charge points and have been told that’s the maximum allowed due to underlying infrastructure (or we could have had 2 rapid chargers instead)

The cars and batteries will keep getting better but the underlying grid and infrastructure must improve to match.

Humm

its not even a blip on the grid.

For example a train can pull a ~5000kW draw on the network as they start rolling and that doesn't put the lights out.

the grid can cope.

Now the local distribution network is another matter.

So you're saying the vast majority of people who buy this car will need to charge it 10-80% in 10 minutes every time they charge it.

Right ho.

You're grasping the wrong end of the stick in order to berate EVs.

The "issue" was "EV's Don't charge fast enough when I need to do more than 250 miles in a day". Polestar appear to have solved this issue.

The issue was not "EVs need to be recharged in 10 minutes every time they're charged". That's the non-issue. So imagining that charging these cars this fast every time they're charged is the strange thing. That is the non-issue I'm speaking of, as it simply won't be necessary in the vast majority of cases.

No, I’m not, and this sort of dishonesty is just tiresome. You know I wasn’t suggesting that, so why write something so stupid?

Can you explain how a market that introduces new cars at a rate of 5% p.a. and currently has 1 million EVs in it, would allow the entire market of 33 million car owners to be driving an EV in 2024.
That appears to be a serious maths fail on you part.
The fact that EVs only work for a small % of the market currently is wholly intentional and desirable.
If that wasn't the case, there would potentially be a major problem of lack of supply, particularly of used cars.
If you are in the large majority that they don't currently work for, that's perfectly ok.
What it doesn't mean is that you should immediately write the technology off as st.
Just be patient.

In my 1st 17,000 miles with an EV, 99% of the charge has been 7kW AC at home or at a destination, the remaining 1% has been 800v fast DC charging at an average of (only!) 250kW.


My battery has 99% of its original capacity remaining.

Its not a big issue

Yes, I have certainly considered that some people want ICE cars but the fact is, they will eventually go away, whether those people like it or not. Yeah, there will always be options available for the wealthy but for the majority, the cost of running them will simply be made prohibitive. So in this case, yes, everything in this context will be based on purchasing decisions made so by governments.

It is what it is.

Had a quick look on Zap Map (started to take an interest as there may be a family EV on the horizon) and there seems to be loads on the UK motorways too. Not cheap though at 70-80p or so a KWH but I suppose you'd only use them from time to time.

Things will change massively over the next few years. Already domestic batteries are common, but Vehicle to Grid is now the standard. I can see your workplace having a lowish power (5-7kW) charger in every parking space, you charge the car during the day when wholesale prices are low or often zero, and at home you plug in and use it to smooth the peaks in dometic consumption before another overnight top up.

These 2-300kW charging rates really do open up EVs to pretty much any use-case. I drove to the Alps at Easter in our ICE, and there was a pair of chargers in our overnight hotel on the way down, that I could have reached with a wee-stop top-up of we'd charged at the tunnel and reached our destination without needing a charge. On the way back, we stopped for fuel, grab lunch, toilets etc, which lost us half an hour total, so we'd have been brimmed in that time. And actually the only free parking spaces in the services were for EV charging! We'd maybe have lost 15 minutes for a top up somewhere in northern France, but basically with those sort of charge rates, it would barely effect what's a pretty demanding journey for an EV. And yes, I got range anxiety and slowed down in the ICE as I was marginal on reaching the overnight stop, didn't want to have to stop again for expensive autoroute fuel. Just need another year of depreciation before I want to afford one...
Oh, and national highways are putting in batteries to smooth out the demand for fast charging at service stations. And trucks well be charging at megawatt, so cars at a third of that will be no trouble