So, now that the GT4 specs are finally known....

997.2 RS with sharkwerks 4.1 :-) would be my ideal

how does a gen 1 have more potential then the gen 2, or you you mean more potential than a GT4

The issue I have with the GT3 and it's well know I dislike this issue is the low down torque you are left with on UK B roads at 90 mph as its ni on impossible to rev the thing out in 3rd gear to enjoy the car.

the GT4 has more torque and 1000 rpm lower than the 997 GT3 ? ie 310 lb/ft at 4700rpm vs 299lb/ft at 5500rpm

now while on track the GT3 sings, on B roads it's a pain in the arse to drive just because of that single issue.

while the GT4 will still do 86 mph in 2nd :-( at least when you pop in into 3rd you should have some shove there at 5k revs

While I loved owning my GT3 I never enjoyed driving it because of that single reason, I have no idea why other people don't have the issue !!!

The GT4 could also be annoying on B roads, but who knows till June/July ?

997.1 torque & long gearing issues are easily fixed by a cup final drive which is about a 7% reduction, so your bum will feel like you've gained an extra 30bhp / 21lbft.

If it was a £1k change rather then a £3k change to make, I'd be all over it. As it is, since you can't rag the car properly on the road anyway, I'll leave as is for the moment as the gearing works fine on track where I intend to continue taking the car a lot.

As an aside, GTS manual gearing is unforgivably long in my book for the B/C GTSs, which is one of the main reasons why I'm going PDK for my BGTS

Not sure you would notice the 10 or so missing bhp from the carrera S ,(if it is missing them ..see the evo interview) ,so think more along the lines of you are getting a better car than a carrera s,with the same engine for £25k less .The lack of a proper Motorsport department engine is the only negative though for me.

not if the GT4 posts a sub 7.40 ring time

Did you not read my post?

We have a GT section?!

I think the GT4 looks great from what I've read;
I never found the relatively long gearing on the GT3 (996) an issue on the road - just use three gears ....
The only person I knew who went for the shorter gearing actually went back to stock

I think it's a shame they ditched the Mezger engine, but totally understand the reasons why (cost)

but, who knows - the new GTx engines might turn out rather good in the long run.
the Mezger wasn't without it faults....

GT4 fills a different niche for me - 50/50 track to road, whereas the GT3 was always 90/10 track to road
or maybe that was just me

But you only really get to use 2 & 3/4 gears. IMO, in a sportcars meant to be driven on the road as well as track, you should be able to rev out the car in the first 3 gears without losing your licence instantly in extremis i.e. over 100mph. In a GT4 (and 997.1 GT3) you cannot. I had both my 993 and GT3 on track on Sunday. In terms of enjoyment purely considering the gear change, I would say I had more fun swapping cogs in the 993 at Brands than I did in the GT3 as there was more of it. Sure the GT3 change is sweeter, but in the 993 I could get 4th on the way up to Druids if I nailed Paddock (GT3 I could keep 3rd), I could snatch 3rd between Druids and Graham Hill (stayed in 2nd in the GT3) and could squeeze into 5th on Brabham straight if I nailed Clarke (only 4th in the GT3).

If the GT4 is 50/50 track road then it should *definitgely* have shorter gearing

You are aware that the GT4 has -30mm ride height, a splitter and no front axle lift...?

ditto
my gt3 had an affair with the road - it must have cos the splitter was always kissing it

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