My old Lambo photos from the 90s

My old Lambo photos from the 90s

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Moikey Fortune

1,650 posts

237 months

Monday 26th February
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Yeah it was a lot different then






ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Monday 26th February
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thegreenhell said:
It's funny seeing Goodwood before it went all prim and posh.
Yes you are so right, the place had more atmosphere when we had rubble with the odd pot hole for the pits along with the original

corrugated Aston Martin and Lagonda pit counters before the Hoo Ray Henry's took over thinking that they have discovered Goodwood

after we have been going there for years before.,

Along with the concessions that Charlie March gave to the local council by lowering db levels to get planning permission to open the track for 5 days

of unsilenced racing and killed Mikes Carrera Sport track days , Was at the last one just before the first Revival and got black flagged on the first lap

and i was no way the noisiest.

Now it's part of the social calender to be seen at along with Henley Regatta and Ascot ,most heading for the strawberries and champagne marquee.

The Members meeting is a little more tolerable ,more like the Revival use to be like catering more for car guys than a fashion show. rolleyes



cgt2

7,102 posts

189 months

Monday 26th February
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ratrod 2 said:
Yes you are so right, the place had more atmosphere when we had rubble with the odd pot hole for the pits along with the original

corrugated Aston Martin and Lagonda pit counters before the Hoo Ray Henry's took over thinking that they have discovered Goodwood

after we have been going there for years before.,

Along with the concessions that Charlie March gave to the local council by lowering db levels to get planning permission to open the track for 5 days

of unsilenced racing and killed Mikes Carrera Sport track days , Was at the last one just before the first Revival and got black flagged on the first lap

and i was no way the noisiest.

Now it's part of the social calender to be seen at along with Henley Regatta and Ascot ,most heading for the strawberries and champagne marquee.

The Members meeting is a little more tolerable ,more like the Revival use to be like catering more for car guys than a fashion show. rolleyes

Glad I got to experience them. Still remember looking over Peter Saywell's SE30.

When was the last one? I was there but have no idea what year. Maybe 1998?

ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Tuesday 27th February
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cgt2 said:
ratrod 2 said:
Yes you are so right, the place had more atmosphere when we had rubble with the odd pot hole for the pits along with the original

corrugated Aston Martin and Lagonda pit counters before the Hoo Ray Henry's took over thinking that they have discovered Goodwood

after we have been going there for years before.,

Along with the concessions that Charlie March gave to the local council by lowering db levels to get planning permission to open the track for 5 days

of unsilenced racing and killed Mikes Carrera Sport track days , Was at the last one just before the first Revival and got black flagged on the first lap

and i was no way the noisiest.

Now it's part of the social calender to be seen at along with Henley Regatta and Ascot ,most heading for the strawberries and champagne marquee.

The Members meeting is a little more tolerable ,more like the Revival use to be like catering more for car guys than a fashion show. rolleyes

Glad I got to experience them. Still remember looking over Peter Saywell's SE30.

When was the last one? I was there but have no idea what year. Maybe 1998?
Bang on , one of the bank holidays ,can't remember which one ,they wouldn't let joe public in as they were trying to

cultivate the grass banking for the Revival and didn't want a load of family's with kids climbing all over them .

Yes i seem to remember you saying that you was there when Peter Saywell arrived in his purple SE 30, I remember it well.

Was watching a "Kidd in a Sweet Shop" video with Jodie Kidd going to Peters house to film his cars and he didn't look at all well,

he's looked a little fail the last couple of times i've been to his track days but at times it was hard for him to talk on the video ,

Shame as he is a lovely guy and i remember my nipper turning up in a Shelby Mustang and Peter didn't know he was my son

and walked over and invited him to join in and take it on the track even though it wasn't a super car ,






Edited by ratrod 2 on Tuesday 27th February 02:10

Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Thursday 11th April
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Hi I think I may have taken over from you working for RJP my first trip in the mid 70’s was t collect an automatic Countach in gold. It was an interesting trip to say the least.

ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Thursday 11th April
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[quote=Davidmaughan]Hi I think I may have taken over from you working for RJP my first trip in the mid 70’s was t collect an automatic Countach in gold. It was an interesting trip to say the least.[/quot

OMG, Didn't know they ever made a automatic Countach,

Must have been a special order,

I know there's a few auto Espada's kicking about, a white one was recently sold at HH last auction .

Wouldn't surprise me if it hasn't been converted to a manual box by now.

Would be interesting to find out.scratchchin

Can't be many gold Countachs about .

My car was originally gold but definitely had three pedals


Edited by ratrod 2 on Thursday 11th April 11:54

Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Thursday 11th April
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Hi Yes it was a special order, pig of a car.

Bob the Cop

188 posts

85 months

Friday 12th April
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Hi David. I do remember you from Whyteleafe. Where did you go when it closed? I saw Del Hopkins last month when he visited me in Devon. He is now permanently back in the UK. I will let him know that you survived!

stevewak

498 posts

131 months

Friday 12th April
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Bob the Cop said:
Hi David. I do remember you from Whyteleafe. Where did you go when it closed? I saw Del Hopkins last month when he visited me in Devon. He is now permanently back in the UK. I will let him know that you survived!
Working on Kidston Countach book so would be interested to contact you, David. Email to info@kidston.com will be picked up. Cheers.

carspath

835 posts

178 months

Friday 12th April
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Hi Davidmaughan , It would be great to hear more about this automatic Countach .
How can I get in touch with you ?
I too am working on 2 Lamborghini books .

Hi Stevewak , it would be great to make contact with you too .
It would be good to share information .

PS : And a quick hello to you too Bob the Cop . Hope that all is well with you

Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 12:59


Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 13:06

cgt2

7,102 posts

189 months

Friday 12th April
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carspath said:
Hi Davidmaughan , It would be great to hear more about this automatic Countach .
How can I get in touch with you ?
I too am working on 2 Lamborghini books .

Hi Stevewak , it would be great to make contact with you too .
It would be good to share information .

PS : And a quick hello to you too Bob the Cop . Hope that all is well with you

Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 12:59


Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 13:06
Looking forward to your next book.

stevewak

498 posts

131 months

Friday 12th April
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carspath said:
Hi Stevewak , it would be great to make contact with you too .
It would be good to share information .
Email us on info@kidston.com pls.

Ferruccio

1,837 posts

120 months

Friday 12th April
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carspath said:
Hi Davidmaughan , It would be great to hear more about this automatic Countach .
How can I get in touch with you ?
I too am working on 2 Lamborghini books .

Hi Stevewak , it would be great to make contact with you too .
It would be good to share information .

PS : And a quick hello to you too Bob the Cop . Hope that all is well with you

Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 12:59


Edited by carspath on Friday 12th April 13:06
Carspath
If you want to pop round again or have me do some pictures, please let me know

carspath

835 posts

178 months

Saturday 13th April
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cgt2 - Thank you for the encouragement, hugely appreciated.

And Ferruccio , thank you for all your help with the Diablo book , and thank you too for your offer of further help .

Stevewak … Thanks and will do .


Last September , after 8 years of trying , I finally managed to secure an interview with Snr Marcello Gandini .
It is difficult for a non-journalist to get time with important motoring personalities .
It had previously taken me years and years to get interviews with Tonino Lamborghini , Stanzani , Dallara , Marchesi , Pagani , Maurizio , etc ,etc .

But one advantage that I appeared to have as an outsider with no connections was that some of these people seemed happier to open up to a non- industry person . One person actually said that they didn’t see me as a threat - I still don’t know whether to take that as a compliment or not !

Anyway , my Co-author and I prepared throughly for our Gandini interview , knowing that the available time would be short and that language might be a problem .

I had also believed from reading previous reports that Snr Gandini might choose not to be effusive .

Anne and I couldn’t have been more pleasantly surprised .
Snr Gandini was a thorough delight and after we had been through all our written-down questions , all of which he answered at length , he gave us more time to delve further into the answers he had already provided us with .
His daughter translated brilliantly so language was not a problem .

Most importantly he wanted to stress a few important points about specific cars that he had designed , and about the principles that guide his approach to car design . Snr Gandini repeated these points to be sure that we fully understood what he was saying , and said that we too should emphasise these points in any books we wrote going into the future .

We had about an hour with Snr Gandini , and will always be grateful for this time with him and his daughter .
They were very generous .

We sat in the car park for about 2 hours and wrote up our notes .

And dovetailing what Stanzani had said to me a long , long time ago with what Snr Gandini had just told me , resurrected a tiny spark that had been bothering me for a long time now - re how we look at ( and how magazines and books universally have reported on ) Lamborghini’s early offerings .

But the Murcie , Diablo and Countach books had already been published , and these books had not properly elaborated on this point , and neither had any of the other Lamborghini books on my bookshelf .
I so wished that I had met Snr Gandini before writing any of these books .

It is so difficult for a non-established , not-formally-trained , writer to get a book contract .
There were no book contracts on the horizon , and it was sad that I now didn’t have the space to elaborate on this ‘ spark’ that Snr Gandini had rekindled .
Over the next 4 weeks we revisited various Lamborghini related places in Italy and I bored Anne to tears at each of these places while I lamented the fact that I had no space ( ie a book contract ) in which to realign how we might choose to look at Early Lamborghinis .

And then I returned back home to find a definite contract for a book on the Countach , Diablo and Murcie , and another contract for a book on the Countach .

So I’ m both excited and very grateful for these two opportunities .

Pistonhead members have been very generous with their knowledge , and PH has a huge reach - I have had PH members from 5 continents helping out ( come on South American PH’ers , and you penguins )




Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Saturday 13th April
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Bob the Cop said:
Hi David. I do remember you from Whyteleafe. Where did you go when it closed? I saw Del Hopkins last month when he visited me in Devon. He is now permanently back in the UK. I will let him know that you survived!
Hi Bob, yes thanks that would be great it would be great to catch up

Ferruccio

1,837 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th April
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carspath said:
cgt2 - Thank you for the encouragement, hugely appreciated.

And Ferruccio , thank you for all your help with the Diablo book , and thank you too for your offer of further help .

Stevewak … Thanks and will do .


Last September , after 8 years of trying , I finally managed to secure an interview with Snr Marcello Gandini .
It is difficult for a non-journalist to get time with important motoring personalities .
It had previously taken me years and years to get interviews with Tonino Lamborghini , Stanzani , Dallara , Marchesi , Pagani , Maurizio , etc ,etc .

But one advantage that I appeared to have as an outsider with no connections was that some of these people seemed happier to open up to a non- industry person . One person actually said that they didn’t see me as a threat - I still don’t know whether to take that as a compliment or not !

Anyway , my Co-author and I prepared throughly for our Gandini interview , knowing that the available time would be short and that language might be a problem .

I had also believed from reading previous reports that Snr Gandini might choose not to be effusive .

Anne and I couldn’t have been more pleasantly surprised .
Snr Gandini was a thorough delight and after we had been through all our written-down questions , all of which he answered at length , he gave us more time to delve further into the answers he had already provided us with .
His daughter translated brilliantly so language was not a problem .

Most importantly he wanted to stress a few important points about specific cars that he had designed , and about the principles that guide his approach to car design . Snr Gandini repeated these points to be sure that we fully understood what he was saying , and said that we too should emphasise these points in any books we wrote going into the future .

We had about an hour with Snr Gandini , and will always be grateful for this time with him and his daughter .
They were very generous .

We sat in the car park for about 2 hours and wrote up our notes .

And dovetailing what Stanzani had said to me a long , long time ago with what Snr Gandini had just told me , resurrected a tiny spark that had been bothering me for a long time now - re how we look at ( and how magazines and books universally have reported on ) Lamborghini’s early offerings .

But the Murcie , Diablo and Countach books had already been published , and these books had not properly elaborated on this point , and neither had any of the other Lamborghini books on my bookshelf .
I so wished that I had met Snr Gandini before writing any of these books .

It is so difficult for a non-established , not-formally-trained , writer to get a book contract .
There were no book contracts on the horizon , and it was sad that I now didn’t have the space to elaborate on this ‘ spark’ that Snr Gandini had rekindled .
Over the next 4 weeks we revisited various Lamborghini related places in Italy and I bored Anne to tears at each of these places while I lamented the fact that I had no space ( ie a book contract ) in which to realign how we might choose to look at Early Lamborghinis .

And then I returned back home to find a definite contract for a book on the Countach , Diablo and Murcie , and another contract for a book on the Countach .

So I’ m both excited and very grateful for these two opportunities .

Pistonhead members have been very generous with their knowledge , and PH has a huge reach - I have had PH members from 5 continents helping out ( come on South American PH’ers , and you penguins )
You should be very proud of what you’ve done!!

Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Thursday 18th April
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Davidmaughan said:
Hi Bob, yes thanks that would be great it would be great to catch up
49davidmaughan@gmail.com

Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Yesterday (14:13)
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Bob the Cop said:
Thanks for the interest in my post. In order to answer some of your questions I need to explain my time line with Lamborghini.
In October 1972 I was a 22 year old Cop in the City of London. On my beat I had the showrooms of Nicholas Van der Steen Ltd who were at Malvern House, Upper Thames Street, London EC4. A modern showroom and petrol station situated on the North side of Southwark Bridge.
Van der Steen had a BMW concession, with the Lamborghini business concentrated at 74, Alie Street, London E1. Nick Van der Steen ran the BMW concession and Roger Phillips looked after the Lamborghini side.
I called into the showroom for a tea and a chat whenever I was in the area. One day I saw A Honda motorcycle In the showroom, a CB750KO. Since the age of 16 I have been a keen motorcyclist (i still am), I discovered that the bike was owned by Roger Phillips and managed to blag a ride on it.
Roger invited me to the 1972 Earls Court motor show. Whilst there I was asked to drive a car from Earls Court to the showroom at Malvern House. The car turned out to be the just launched BMW 3.0 CSL in a beautiful gold colour. I very carefully drove the car across London and deposited it at the showroms.
After the show I called into Malvern House and Roger Phillips offered me a job as a driver. It turned out that the BMW drive had been my test!
I commenced work at Alie Street in November 1972 where I met Tom Gilban and Del Hopkins amongst others. There was another Bob working there so I was given the name 'Bob the Cop'.

This was the brochure produced for the 1972 Motor Show

The Countach would not be seen in the UK until the 1973 show.
I set about collecting customers cars for servicing, photo shoots with the press and delivering sold cars and collecting the part exchange, normally an Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. My first trip to the factory was late 1972 early 1973 to collect a Jarama, followed by several trips in 1973 as required.
In 1973 the Nick Van der Steen/ Roger Phillips partnership split and I stayed with Roger. Nick began importing the ISO Lele to make up for the loss of Lamborghini. Roger occupied new offices at 58, Southwark Bridge Road, London SE1. Later in the year we moved to 5-6 Yarmouth Place, Brick Street, London, W1.


This is the letter from JCL Marine where I took the gold Urraco for the Martini ad. I wonder who has John Newman's Espada now?
By this time I was driving, dealing with warranty issues and arranging servicing amongst other things. It was also the start of the Arab/ Israeli war that brought about problems with obtaining fuel. A Lamborghini at 10 to 15 miles per gallon did not go far on the 2 gallons ration. My work became more office based and it was with a heavy heart that I left Lamborghini in February 1974 to return to the Police. I did however remain a friend of Roger and was able to assist him on my leave days and shared a house with him in 1979/1981.
I will leave this post for now before it gets too long. I will answer the 'how many Urraco' question and let you know of an interesting car that almost was.
Hi Bob hope all is well it would be great to catch up. We come down to Devon often. Regards David

Davidmaughan

7 posts

1 month

Yesterday (14:14)
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Bob the Cop said:
Thanks for the interest in my post. In order to answer some of your questions I need to explain my time line with Lamborghini.
In October 1972 I was a 22 year old Cop in the City of London. On my beat I had the showrooms of Nicholas Van der Steen Ltd who were at Malvern House, Upper Thames Street, London EC4. A modern showroom and petrol station situated on the North side of Southwark Bridge.
Van der Steen had a BMW concession, with the Lamborghini business concentrated at 74, Alie Street, London E1. Nick Van der Steen ran the BMW concession and Roger Phillips looked after the Lamborghini side.
I called into the showroom for a tea and a chat whenever I was in the area. One day I saw A Honda motorcycle In the showroom, a CB750KO. Since the age of 16 I have been a keen motorcyclist (i still am), I discovered that the bike was owned by Roger Phillips and managed to blag a ride on it.
Roger invited me to the 1972 Earls Court motor show. Whilst there I was asked to drive a car from Earls Court to the showroom at Malvern House. The car turned out to be the just launched BMW 3.0 CSL in a beautiful gold colour. I very carefully drove the car across London and deposited it at the showroms.
After the show I called into Malvern House and Roger Phillips offered me a job as a driver. It turned out that the BMW drive had been my test!
I commenced work at Alie Street in November 1972 where I met Tom Gilban and Del Hopkins amongst others. There was another Bob working there so I was given the name 'Bob the Cop'.

This was the brochure produced for the 1972 Motor Show

The Countach would not be seen in the UK until the 1973 show.
I set about collecting customers cars for servicing, photo shoots with the press and delivering sold cars and collecting the part exchange, normally an Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. My first trip to the factory was late 1972 early 1973 to collect a Jarama, followed by several trips in 1973 as required.
In 1973 the Nick Van der Steen/ Roger Phillips partnership split and I stayed with Roger. Nick began importing the ISO Lele to make up for the loss of Lamborghini. Roger occupied new offices at 58, Southwark Bridge Road, London SE1. Later in the year we moved to 5-6 Yarmouth Place, Brick Street, London, W1.


This is the letter from JCL Marine where I took the gold Urraco for the Martini ad. I wonder who has John Newman's Espada now?
By this time I was driving, dealing with warranty issues and arranging servicing amongst other things. It was also the start of the Arab/ Israeli war that brought about problems with obtaining fuel. A Lamborghini at 10 to 15 miles per gallon did not go far on the 2 gallons ration. My work became more office based and it was with a heavy heart that I left Lamborghini in February 1974 to return to the Police. I did however remain a friend of Roger and was able to assist him on my leave days and shared a house with him in 1979/1981.
I will leave this post for now before it gets too long. I will answer the 'how many Urraco' question and let you know of an interesting car that almost was.
Hi Bob hope all is well it would be great to catch up. We come down to Devon often. Regards David