EVs... no one wants them!
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tupak798 said:
For ‘we’ are many…
Election means nothing, the clear majority are not in favour of net zero. Flip flopping kneelers can do… nothing…
‘Far more Conservative voters back net zero climate target than don't, survey finds’Election means nothing, the clear majority are not in favour of net zero. Flip flopping kneelers can do… nothing…
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/far-more-conservati...
Is anyone really paying £55,000 to buy an electric VW Passat (well an ID7 touring).
If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
Moorlandman said:
Is anyone really paying £55,000 to buy an electric VW Passat (well an ID7 touring).
If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
Of course not. Like the vast majority of EVs it’ll be significantly cheaper because of reduced taxation or discounts hidden in PCP and lease deals. If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
Not that that’s a bad thing, means the more cars on the used market in 2 or 3 years time.
soxboy said:
‘Far more Conservative voters back net zero climate target than don't, survey finds’
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/far-more-conservati...
Fair enough but as is always the case with opinion polls the answers given depend on the questions asked. For example, it's perfectly possible to support the aim of moving to net zero whilst also disagreeing with either some of the proposed methods and/or the timescale for getting there. https://news.sky.com/story/amp/far-more-conservati...
JNW1 said:
soxboy said:
‘Far more Conservative voters back net zero climate target than don't, survey finds’
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/far-more-conservati...
Fair enough but as is always the case with opinion polls the answers given depend on the questions asked. For example, it's perfectly possible to support the aim of moving to net zero whilst also disagreeing with either some of the proposed methods and/or the timescale for getting there. https://news.sky.com/story/amp/far-more-conservati...
tupak798 said:
For ‘we’ are many…
Election means nothing, the clear majority are not in favour of net zero. Flip flopping kneelers can do… nothing…
Aye, but we are in control, not the Gammons. So try not to get too angry. It won't help.Election means nothing, the clear majority are not in favour of net zero. Flip flopping kneelers can do… nothing…
Yours
Discombobulate.
EV driving immigrant and President of the Illuminati
Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 17th April 09:04
Moorlandman said:
Is anyone really paying £55,000 to buy an electric VW Passat (well an ID7 touring).
If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
check out the Buzz, £60k+ for something that looks like it was from the 60s! Joking aside the current crop of EV SUVs all look so anonymous and dull that something resembling a car will appeal to some potential customers. If you look at the photos (apart from the Dashboard) it looks like a typical 2010 - 2020 VW
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id7/36233...
Cars, especially EVs have massively inflated RRPs right now. Once breaking the “luxury” tax bracket it seems almost an arbitrary figure.
Tony33 said:
heck out the Buzz, £60k+ for something that looks like it was from the 60s! Joking aside the current crop of EV SUVs all look so anonymous and dull that something resembling a car will appeal to some potential customers.
Cars, especially EVs have massively inflated RRPs right now. Once breaking the “luxury” tax bracket it seems almost an arbitrary figure.
So your point is mostly that new cars look anonymous and are too expensive? Cars, especially EVs have massively inflated RRPs right now. Once breaking the “luxury” tax bracket it seems almost an arbitrary figure.
king point of it.I see batteries are not the only expensive part of EV ownership...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
trumpton7291 said:
I see batteries are not the only expensive part of EV ownership...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
you forgot to sign off with 'gotcha!'https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
trumpton7291 said:
I see batteries are not the only expensive part of EV ownership...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
I've been eyeing up a Model 3 Tesla, but after reading this I think I might go for a Ford with a wet belt Eco Boost engine?!https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
trumpton7291 said:
I see batteries are not the only expensive part of EV ownership...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
My mums 5 year old ICE BMW with 26k miles on it is currently in with BMW with a knackered gearbox, they want £2k just to remove it and see what's wrong with it. That's even before any repair/replacement has been identified and fitted. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
My BMW M2 needed a top-end engine rebuild at 3 years old and 21k miles. Luckily under warranty but would have been many thousands if it wasn't covered.
We can go back and forth stating failures between EV's and ICE cars all day.
My point is, don't buy a BMW
_Hoppers said:
T_S_M said:
My point is, don't buy a BMW
Mine has got 85k on it and has been great. I'm surprised at the gearbox failure, the ZF units, I understand, are pretty bullet proof!Major failures can happen on any car though, irrelevant of how they're powered. Yes a battery may fail, but how much is a new engine if that fails?
T_S_M said:
Yeah I was joking really, I've had many BMW's and in general they've all been fine.
Major failures can happen on any car though, irrelevant of how they're powered. Yes a battery may fail, but how much is a new engine if that fails?
I guess with an engine though that's going to be a big bill regardless of car. Also most places can replace an engine, it's just if they want to do it. Major failures can happen on any car though, irrelevant of how they're powered. Yes a battery may fail, but how much is a new engine if that fails?
With a heater, yes you'd expect it to be maybe £1000 tops. That is still a ridiculous amount. That's the difference as something so small shouldn't be costing more than the car itself.
_Hoppers said:
trumpton7291 said:
I see batteries are not the only expensive part of EV ownership...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
I've been eyeing up a Model 3 Tesla, but after reading this I think I might go for a Ford with a wet belt Eco Boost engine?!https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/17/rena...
£11k... ouch!
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